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Safaricom at 4 bob...
hisah
#41 Posted : Monday, October 01, 2012 5:08:55 AM
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dunkang wrote:
lower mtr shelved again. Activists run to court to block 'phones switch off.'
This is definately good news for safcom shares price and investors, but how about the other kenyans?

Yep. CCK still got no teeth...

www.businessdailyafrica....516/-/i1273/-/index.html

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hisah
#42 Posted : Monday, October 01, 2012 6:02:03 AM
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Very tricky this. If Airtel was to fold that would leave Essar very exposed for depending on Airtel's sites for network coverage. I wonder why this skewed arrangement. Does it mean Safaricom and Orange refused to share their sites with Essar?

www.businessdailyafrica....0/-/dbfkbvz/-/index.html
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dunkang
#43 Posted : Monday, October 01, 2012 8:58:01 AM
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hisah wrote:
Very tricky this. If Airtel was to fold that would leave Essar very exposed for depending on Airtel's sites for network coverage. I wonder why this skewed arrangement. Does it mean Safaricom and Orange refused to share their sites with Essar?

www.businessdailyafrica....0/-/dbfkbvz/-/index.html

a telco must close shop this year. even GTV started this way.
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hisah
#44 Posted : Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:51:57 PM
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Airtel pissed with CCK

www.nation.co.ke/busines...0/-/p77n87z/-/index.html
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peep
#45 Posted : Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:21:42 AM
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hisah wrote:

And I'm pissed off with airtel. They just erased my 2.9GB of data and have not returned it, just a word (two weeks ago) that they are looking into it. For all I care right now they might as well pack their bags (or is it masts) and go back to wherever they came from.Shame on you
hisah
#46 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 8:35:29 AM
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Airtel subscribers to send mobile cash free of charge - http://www.businessdaily...6/-/tsc6px/-/index.html

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The firm said Thursday it had abolished the fee, which ranged between Sh5 and Sh25 per transaction, but did not change the withdrawal charges, which ranged between Sh15 and Sh300. “The zero transaction charge applied to any amount sent to the recipients on any network in Kenya,” said managing director Shivan Bhargava in a statement.

The review of the tariffs comes in a year when its rival Safaricom increased the fees for sending and receiving amounts above Sh3,500 in a bid to increase the commissions paid to agents. Safaricom charges between Sh3 and Sh250 for cash transfers.

Safaricom, the market leader with 19 million subscribers, has nearly 40,000 M-Pesa agents leaving the rest of the service providers with 9,000 agents across Kenya.

Airtel says it has 6,000 agents and 4.4 million subscribers. As a result, the bulk of the mobile cash transactions have been restricted in Safaricom’s network.


I would be biting my fingernails if I were an Airtel shareholder. They have few customers, fewer agents... This is a zero sum game.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
sparkly
#47 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 11:34:34 AM
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hisah wrote:
Airtel subscribers to send mobile cash free of charge - http://www.businessdaily...6/-/tsc6px/-/index.html

Quote:
The firm said Thursday it had abolished the fee, which ranged between Sh5 and Sh25 per transaction, but did not change the withdrawal charges, which ranged between Sh15 and Sh300. “The zero transaction charge applied to any amount sent to the recipients on any network in Kenya,” said managing director Shivan Bhargava in a statement.

The review of the tariffs comes in a year when its rival Safaricom increased the fees for sending and receiving amounts above Sh3,500 in a bid to increase the commissions paid to agents. Safaricom charges between Sh3 and Sh250 for cash transfers.

Safaricom, the market leader with 19 million subscribers, has nearly 40,000 M-Pesa agents leaving the rest of the service providers with 9,000 agents across Kenya.

Airtel says it has 6,000 agents and 4.4 million subscribers. As a result, the bulk of the mobile cash transactions have been restricted in Safaricom’s network.


I would be biting my fingernails if I were an Airtel shareholder. They have few customers, fewer agents... This is a zero sum game.


Airtel is still to understand the Kenya Market. Reducing charges wont cut it. They can as well give free calls and no one will move to their network.

What they need to do is to be creative in product offerings to their customers or identify a niche market and exploit it.
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Jamani
#48 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 11:45:24 AM
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sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
Airtel subscribers to send mobile cash free of charge - http://www.businessdaily...6/-/tsc6px/-/index.html

Quote:
The firm said Thursday it had abolished the fee, which ranged between Sh5 and Sh25 per transaction, but did not change the withdrawal charges, which ranged between Sh15 and Sh300. “The zero transaction charge applied to any amount sent to the recipients on any network in Kenya,” said managing director Shivan Bhargava in a statement.

The review of the tariffs comes in a year when its rival Safaricom increased the fees for sending and receiving amounts above Sh3,500 in a bid to increase the commissions paid to agents. Safaricom charges between Sh3 and Sh250 for cash transfers.

Safaricom, the market leader with 19 million subscribers, has nearly 40,000 M-Pesa agents leaving the rest of the service providers with 9,000 agents across Kenya.

Airtel says it has 6,000 agents and 4.4 million subscribers. As a result, the bulk of the mobile cash transactions have been restricted in Safaricom’s network.


I would be biting my fingernails if I were an Airtel shareholder. They have few customers, fewer agents... This is a zero sum game.


Airtel is still to understand the Kenya Market. Reducing charges wont cut it. They can as well give free calls and no one will move to their network.

What they need to do is to be creative in product offerings to their customers or identify a niche market and exploit it.

in an earlier post, we had a serious argument about Celtel now Airtel verses Safaricom thats is history now... Airtel will never catch up with safaricom by fighting the gov't ... even if MTR was reduced today they wont make it anywhere near safcom with the kind of strategy they have never.... by the way everything was done to their favour including MNP but as the going is safcom has been the benefiter.... Airtel no longer says MNP MNP they lost it.
dunkang
#49 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 12:29:55 PM
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I am trying to imagine what would be airtel if safcom would come up with a 20bob offer for say 20minutes, 20sms and 20 MB for JUST 2 weeks. LOL
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#50 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 12:45:55 PM
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peep wrote:
hisah wrote:

And I'm pissed off with airtel. They just erased my 2.9GB of data and have not returned it, just a word (two weeks ago) that they are looking into it. For all I care right now they might as well pack their bags (or is it masts) and go back to wherever they came from.Shame on you

Same here. Erased mine in August and "they are still looking into it"
Quickly wrote it off as bad debts and moved on. Infact you're the one who's reminded mesmile
Airtel belongs to stone age!
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