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Makaa writ: "...maswali huja doesn't mean i don't believe or trust in God,I know he exists and I have seen His hand throughout my life."This was my experience too and, for many years, I agonized about it. Then one day I realized that if God gave me the powers to reason and question things, he expected me to use them fully - including by questioning him and his 'word' too. Doing any less would be a sin. I even found a famous parable by Jesus that seems to make exactly this case - the man who failed to use his talent got punished. My final epiphany came a few years ago when I realized that if God was anything that I think he is, nothing I could ever do would piss him off. We pray to and praise God for our own good, not his. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Lol, your "prayers" (pun intended) have been answered Essyk....This thread is just as silly as the other religious ones. I was reading it for comic relief but Kenyanlyrics mockingly invited me so I have to oblige...There is no god just like there is no satan..You guys have some really wild imaginations....Life is simple, all that people need to do is be good to each other and this world would be the proverbial "heaven" you guys keep talking about....Otherwise all this god and satan talk is just the works of man to scare other men so that they can have control over their minds.....Satan and God are just a figment of people's imagination, they don't exist.... It takes a really objective mind to understand that we are responsible for our own good on earth, there is no tussle between god (good) and satan (evil) to win the human hearts....That idea is just people being silly....If for arguments sake say this satan guy exists and your omni everything god exists as well, why doesn't he (god) just destroy this satan guy with one strike so that we can finally have a world devoid of evil?...I am assuming that the satan guy is teh one responsible for all the evil on earth, right?...Why doesn't god just bitch slap him into oblivion that way we can have a peaceful world that has streets paved with gold, instead of waiting until we get to heaven to enjoy those gold paved streets?...lol... If this satan guy is the reason why the world is messed up, then maybe all you theists need to gather this Sunday and tell your god to destroy him so that we can finally have a peaceful life on earth...You can have Yesu Wangu organize the crusade this Sunday...She/he seems to have a more direct line to this god guy than most people I know...If she/he calls god, at least god won't be mteja like say if Tycho calls him coz god cringes everytime Tycho calls him so he turns off his phone and goes mteja..Nobody understand this tycho fellow, the other day god was looking all over heaven for anybody that understands what tycho is saying, akina Abraham, Gabriel, Moses all chewed a lock too....lol...I might even show up fro the crusade and pray with you guys because I more than anybody else, would love to live in a world that has streets paved with gold where people are happy and there is no suffering the world over.......Sorry, I couldn't help the sarcasm on my post, it's hard to keep a straight face when debating theists....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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hamburglar wrote:Lol, your "prayers" (pun intended) have been answered Essyk....This thread is just as silly as the other religious ones I was reading it for comic relief but Kenyanlyrics mockingly invited me so I have to oblige...There is no god just like there is no satan..You guys have some really wild imaginations....Life is simple, all that people need to do is be good to each other and this world would be the proverbial "heaven" you guys keep talking about....Otherwise all this god and satan talk is just the works of man to scare other men so that they can have control over their minds.....Satan and God are just a figment of people's imagination, they don't exist.... It takes a really objective mind to understand that we are responsible for our own good on earth, there is no tussle between god (good) and satan (evil) to win the human hearts....That idea is just people being silly....If for arguments sake this satan guy exists and your omni everything god exists as well, why doesn't he (god) just destroy this satan guy with one strike so that we can finally have a world devoid of evil...I am assuming that the satan guy is teh one responsible for all the evil on earth, right?...Why doesn't god just bitch slap him into oblivion that way we can have a peaceful world that has streets paved with gold, instead of waiting until we get to heaven to enjoy those gold paved streets...lol... If this satan guy is the reason why the world is messed up, then maybe all you theists need to gather this Sunday and tell your god to destroy him so that we can have a peaceful life on earth...You can have Yesu Wangu organize the crusade this Sunday...She/he seems to have a more direct line to this god guy than most people I know...If she/he calls god, at least god won't be mteja like say if Tycho calls him coz god cringes everytime Tycho calls him so he turns off his phone and goes mteja..Nobody understand this tycho fellow, the other day god was looking all over heaven for anybody that understands what tycho is saying, akina Abraham, Gabriel, Moses all chewed a lock too....lol...I might even show up fro the crusade and pray with you guys because I more than anybody else, would love to live in a world that has streets paved with gold where people are happy and there is no suffering the world over.......Sorry, I couldn't help the sarcasm on my post, it's hard to keep a straight face when debating theists.... ...when did you "realise" there is no God? possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Pastor M wrote:
No Satan is not omnipresent..I hope this is a biblical discussion not arguments where we get the facts from the Bible..here are some Bible evidence
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1)Satan is a created being (Ezekiel 28:15), and he is certainly not God, though he would like to be (Isaiah 14:13-14). And, of course, this is what he promised Eve (Genesis 3:5).
2)He is roamer In Job 1:7 Satan said that he had been “roaming about on the earth,” which surely doesn’t sound like omnipresence. Also, in Job 1:6 Satan came before God.
3)In Revelation 12:9 Satan is cast down to earth, out of heaven so he is not in heaven he is only in earth.
3)Satan has a network of demons, and these (like angels) seem to have a certain restricted territory in which to function (Daniel 10:20; 12:1). I take it that since Satan has demons strategically placed around the world, he is kept informed as to what is happening in the world, but this is not omniscience, nor omnipresence.
It's good to have a Pastor around, to quote the Bible.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Hamburglar all this crotura crotura smh. chill. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/28/2008 Posts: 2,276 Location: Kibish
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essyk wrote:Hamburglar all this crotura crotura smh.
chill.
 Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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essyk wrote:Hamburglar all this crotura crotura smh.
chill.
Ummm, what is this crotura crotura business? Is that a new delicacy that I am not privy to? If it is, can you please share the recipe with me EssyK? It sounds like it might be a mixture of chips and motura....Is it?..lol
I am chilling, I am always chilled my friend, am just having my usual fun online.....
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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...when did you "realise" there is no God?[/quote]
I don't know the exact timeline but it doesn't really matter, I am just glad that I unchained myself from those shackles of religion and gods that were holding me back....
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