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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
youcan'tstopusnow
#221 Posted : Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:36:48 PM
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HF targets raising Sh3bn
through medium-term
note
This will be the second and last tranche of the Sh10 billion medium-term notes that were first offered in September 2010.
http://www.businessdaily...6/-/1jtpky/-/index.html
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
mwekez@ji
#222 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 9:30:19 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
HF targets raising Sh3bn
through medium-term
note
This will be the second and last tranche of the Sh10 billion medium-term notes that were first offered in September 2010.
http://www.businessdailyafrica....66/-/1jtpky/-/index.html


HF is going places!

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OAN, #Elders, light moments smile

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ProverB
#223 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 9:45:26 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
HF targets raising Sh3bn
through medium-term
note
This will be the second and last tranche of the Sh10 billion medium-term notes that were first offered in September 2010.
http://www.businessdaily...6/-/1jtpky/-/index.html


..a case of..when loan options becomes preferable to calling up capital..
i like this for one reason only..my equity remains undiluted..and business prospects can adequately cover the MTN costs

atleast they've kept of the
"rights issue" band wagon. Smart. smile
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Aguytrying
#224 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 3:23:17 PM
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ProverB wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
HF targets raising Sh3bn
through medium-term
note
This will be the second and last tranche of the Sh10 billion medium-term notes that were first offered in September 2010.
http://www.businessdaily...6/-/1jtpky/-/index.html


..a case of..when loan options becomes preferable to calling up capital..
i like this for one reason only..my equity remains undiluted..and business prospects can adequately cover the MTN costs

atleast they've kept of the
"rights issue" band wagon. Smart. smile


HFCK has used the money from 2008 rights, and bond in 2010 very well. I'm convinced they'll use this 3bn very well, to achieve the 2012-2016 plan. Nice
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
2012
#225 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:42:40 PM
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I know HFCK bought acreage in Riruta area. Would anyone know where this land is located?

BBI will solve it
:)
Aguytrying
#226 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:23:23 PM
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After months of planning, i have finally put my money where my mouth is and taken the plunge on HFCK (with both feet) today. Im very excited i am finally in.

Karibu Diamond, karibu 0.25 member
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#227 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:14:07 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
After months of planning, i have finally put my money where my mouth is and taken the plunge on HFCK (with both feet) today. Im very excited i am finally in.

Karibu Diamond, karibu 0.25 member


Looks like i entered alongside the big boys
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
the deal
#228 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:22:02 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
After months of planning, i have finally put my money where my mouth is and taken the plunge on HFCK (with both feet) today. Im very excited i am finally in.

Karibu Diamond, karibu 0.25 member


Looks like i entered alongside the big boys

You have made the right decison I have a TP of Ksh20 on the stock!
maligumu
#229 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:34:47 PM
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the deal wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
After months of planning, i have finally put my money where my mouth is and taken the plunge on HFCK (with both feet) today. Im very excited i am finally in.

Karibu Diamond, karibu 0.25 member


Looks like i entered alongside the big boys

You have made the right decison I have a TP of Ksh20 on the stock!


Welcome some of us are already seated, hope you will get a permanent seat in the diamond .
Peace be with you
PKoli
#230 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:39:05 PM
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maligumu wrote:
the deal wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
After months of planning, i have finally put my money where my mouth is and taken the plunge on HFCK (with both feet) today. Im very excited i am finally in.

Karibu Diamond, karibu 0.25 member


Looks like i entered alongside the big boys

You have made the right decison I have a TP of Ksh20 on the stock!


Welcome some of us are already seated, hope you will get a permanent seat in the diamond .


Many of you were on the sidelines. Karibu
S.Mutaga III
#231 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:19:25 PM
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The only reason am still onboard is because I havent boken even...as soon as it happens...puff!!am out of this value trap...why ride a donkey when there is a ferarri.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
sparkly
#232 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:49:14 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
The only reason am still onboard is because I havent boken even...as soon as it happens...puff!!am out of this value trap...why ride a donkey when there is a ferarri.


which the ferarri
Life is short. Live passionately.
sparkly
#233 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:51:02 PM
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PKoli wrote:
maligumu wrote:
the deal wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
After months of planning, i have finally put my money where my mouth is and taken the plunge on HFCK (with both feet) today. Im very excited i am finally in.

Karibu Diamond, karibu 0.25 member


Looks like i entered alongside the big boys

You have made the right decison I have a TP of Ksh20 on the stock!


Welcome some of us are already seated, hope you will get a permanent seat in the diamond .


Many of you were on the sidelines. Karibu


@aguy karibu, we are ready to go
Life is short. Live passionately.
Aguytrying
#234 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:52:10 PM
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the deal wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
After months of planning, i have finally put my money where my mouth is and taken the plunge on HFCK (with both feet) today. Im very excited i am finally in.

Karibu Diamond, karibu 0.25 member


Looks like i entered alongside the big boys

You have made the right decison I have a TP of Ksh20 on the stock!


Thanks. I have a TP of 40.00 in sep 2014 and TP of 30 for Q4 2013 ceteris paribus
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#235 Posted : Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:53:40 PM
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sparkly wrote:
PKoli wrote:
maligumu wrote:
the deal wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
After months of planning, i have finally put my money where my mouth is and taken the plunge on HFCK (with both feet) today. Im very excited i am finally in.

Karibu Diamond, karibu 0.25 member


Looks like i entered alongside the big boys

You have made the right decison I have a TP of Ksh20 on the stock!


Welcome some of us are already seated, hope you will get a permanent seat in the diamond .


Many of you were on the sidelines. Karibu


@aguy karibu, we are ready to go


asanteni wakubwa
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
guru267
#236 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:36:32 AM
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Apparently S&L has increased market share in Kenya to 40%.. HFCK better watch their backs!!

www.worldfinance.com/ban...or-growth-in-east-africa

S&L set to be the Kenyan and regional mortgage kingpin! Maybe this is one reason Mr. market continues to punish HF!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mwekez@ji
#237 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:44:44 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Apparently S&L has increased market share in Kenya to 40%..
www.worldfinance.com/ban...or-growth-in-east-africa



BIF FAT LIE!!!!!

As at 31 Dec 2011, market share was as follows:
1. HFCK - 28.26%
2. KCB - 19.85%
3. CFC - 9.66%
4. Stanchart - 8.50%
5. BBk - 4.79%
(Source: CBK Bank Supervision Annual Report 2011)

Logic tells us there is no way KCB can move to 40%.

If you insist that the 40% is no lie, tell us the percentage market share of the other big 5!
guru267
#238 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:10:13 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Apparently S&L has increased market share in Kenya to 40%..
www.worldfinance.com/ban...or-growth-in-east-africa



BIF FAT LIE!!!!!

As at 31 Dec 2011, market share was as follows:
1. HFCK - 28.26%
2. KCB - 19.85%
3. CFC - 9.66%
4. Stanchart - 8.50%
5. BBk - 4.79%
(Source: CBK Bank Supervision Annual Report 2011)

Logic tells us there is no way KCB can move to 40%.

If you insist that the 40% is no lie, tell us the percentage market share of the other big 5!


@mwekez@ji your figures do not add up to anything close to 100%!

But i stand to be corrected!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mwekez@ji
#239 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 3:00:49 PM
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guru267 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Apparently S&L has increased market share in Kenya to 40%..
www.worldfinance.com/ban...or-growth-in-east-africa



BIF FAT LIE!!!!!

As at 31 Dec 2011, market share was as follows:
1. HFCK - 28.26%
2. KCB - 19.85%
3. CFC - 9.66%
4. Stanchart - 8.50%
5. BBk - 4.79%
(Source: CBK Bank Supervision Annual Report 2011)

Logic tells us there is no way KCB can move to 40%.

If you insist that the 40% is no lie, tell us the percentage market share of the other big 5!


@mwekez@ji your figures do not add up to anything close to 100%!

But i stand to be corrected!


The top 5 mortgage players controlled 71.06% of the market as at 31st Dec 2011. Mortgage market had other 28 players sharing the remaining 28.94%.

The 40% is clearly incorrect. It is best you apply professional skepticism when putting up your posts to avoid misleading many

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guru267
#240 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 6:33:01 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
The 40% is clearly incorrect. It is best you apply professional skepticism when putting up your posts to avoid misleading many.


That is why i said "apparently"... I also said that i stand to be corrected!!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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