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"I Will Not Apologize" -- Caroline Mutoko Responds to Plagiarism Claims
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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quicksand wrote:masukuma wrote:Wendz wrote:MKWASI wrote:mukiha wrote:A write never copies anything without acknowledging the source... and checking for copyright restrictions before using a large part of it...
A serious writer, doesn't even copy himself/herself without acknowledging that he/she had published the same words at a different time or publications.
This is the reason why you will see the likes of Sunny Bindra writing something like: "In 1997, I wrote in the East African that 'A man like Mwai Kibaki can change the way Kenyans view the concept of developmental...'" He is quoting himself and he tells the reader that this is not the first time he is using those words.
So the question really is: is Mutoko serious about her writing? @Mukiha...Writing is a different art altogether. Portraying your ignorance in writing, is just irreversable. I think She should just stick to radio (you can say something today and deny tomorrow borrowing a leaf from our Mpigs). she ain't doing well either on that radio front but it will save her albeit for the time being! This boils down to what people read. If you appreciate good writing, you'll definitely be pissed off with copy and paste because chances are that you've read it elsewhere or even if you've not, you do not want, in future, to quote the wrong source and give credit to the "copy paster". why? you have read it before - skip it! if she felt that the contents of the material she read somewhere else was exactly what she would have told herself 20 years ago - why change? so that we can comply with external ideals? think about it - when Kibaki insulted people who annoyed him 'Kubaff, Mafi ya Kuku'. Do we have to reference him when we dismiss other people of similar behaviours? As Kibaki says - 'wewe ni Kubaff, Mafi ya kuku' @Masukuma .. yours is a simplistic rationalization and its totally wrong. There are professional writing ethics and all journalists should follow them. Heck, there are copyright laws to protect against it. If you copied an academic paper and got caught you would fail. A Romanian PM or Minister had to resign just because of such a transgression. Plagiarism is the equivalent of finding a squatter has allocated him/herself a part of (or all of) your house as his/her living quarters after you sweat blood and tears to construct it. In the absence of a credit and reference, it is pissing on the person who sat and thought long and hard to come up with an original piece. How do you not get it? have you read my whole analysis of this plagiarism and IP thing earlier on this forum? I have addressed all the issues you have outlined and no one has argued convincingly otherwise. in the context of the majority of the world's cultures - I will not repeat stuff i have already addressed before. We are just doing stuff because others are doing it - we are not interested in the historical background of IP and whether or not its actually beneficial for us (net importers of IP) to engage in something that is obviously foreign and serves no benefit for us. plus...HOW MANY TIMES MUST I SAY - THIS IS NOT A CLASSROOM ASSIGNMENT! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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@masukuma - so are you saying that if we do something wrong many times it becomes right, acceptable? The piece was published in a newspaper! So we imported IP,...you have decided its not beneficial. On what grounds? Have you heard of syndication? Why stop at that just one article? No point in writing original content ....nooooo .... if there is nothing wrong with lifting material like that, why bother paying Mutoko a commission to do it? They need not go far, they can start by lifting stuff from Nation,..or Standard...then slap a name on the by-line and voila! a newspaper.
Mutoko has jeopardized her budding writing career. That is a fact. If she was to submit a piece to an international publication, it is very possible it will not get published until she addresses the issue in an honest and transparent manner. Those are the facts. Rampant bad practice will not transition plagiarism into a good thing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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quicksand wrote:@masukuma - so are you saying that if we do something wrong many times it becomes right, acceptable? The piece was published in a newspaper! So we imported IP,...you have decided its not beneficial. On what grounds? Have you heard of syndication? Why stop at that just one article? No point in writing original content ....nooooo .... if there is nothing wrong with lifting material like that, why bother paying Mutoko a commission to do it? They need not go far, they can start by lifting stuff from Nation,..or Standard...then slap a name on the by-line and voila! a newspaper.
Mutoko has jeopardized her budding writing career. That is a fact. If she was to submit a piece to an international publication, it is very possible it will not get published until she addresses the issue in an honest and transparent manner. Those are the facts. Rampant bad practice will not transition plagiarism into a good thing. actually - YES! the world is a supermarket we don't have to pick up stuff that don't add benefit to us. I believe i have already explained this exhaustively in earlier posts. I believe we should be context sensitive! this is not academic and thus we should not be IP police to the rest of the world. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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@masukuma - so, if you wrote a novel..(an ebook, easier to copy) ...you take say 3 years ..then I come along and copy huge parts of (or even all) the prose ..start splitting your profits .....you would be cool with that?...it is not an academic work after all! Are you defending such an untenable position just to annoy people or you really can't see or don't understand the reprehensibility of ripping off other people's work?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/25/2007 Posts: 1,574
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Open letter to Caroline Mutoko: Response from Generation Y http://www.ghafla.co.ke/...ponse-from-generation-y
Wait until CM reads this. Si atatukana watu!  Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110
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Really? Do we have to argue whether plagiarism is bad? It's morally and ethically wrong period! Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Is this plagiarized too? If not, it's a great and brave articles. Kudos to whoever wrote it.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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2012 wrote:Is this plagiarized too? If not, it's a great and brave articles. Kudos to whoever wrote it. Regardsless how great she can write, i dont like that woman, her guts and all. and let us meet at the ballot, this is a free country. UHURUTO  Thieves
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2007 Posts: 2,047
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2012 wrote:Is this plagiarized too? If not, it's a great and brave articles. Kudos to whoever wrote it. hehhehe @ nostop,you have posted this one kila mahali !! what is it ?
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