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Lolest!
#11 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:04:33 PM
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Any experienced beekeeper?
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Baratang
#12 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:47:16 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Any experienced beekeeper?

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My old man was a small scale beekeeper and was using the top bar beehive. It could produce even upto 25kg in a good season. He had 8 beehives.

The main things that i used to observe happening is that during harvesting a lot of bees were killed and the honey combs often were lased with a lot of lavae.
Seles83
#13 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 1:03:13 PM
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I just remember the bee stings...
More monies, more problems...
Lolest!
#14 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:02:34 PM
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Seles83 wrote:
I just remember the bee stings...

I remember bee stings too from my uncle's 1 hive. This is one venture that can easily land you in court once your insects go berserk.
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wairegi
#15 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:52:04 PM
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As many have contributed this is a good venture..for hobby the hives can be as simple as the African pot, the round 20 litres tins(Need to insulate against the heat during. Lagging with glass or old sisal sacks will do. The african log hive not so common this days. For the topbar and langstroth hive they are both costly but yields are better.
We currently improving of the top bar and the other less improvised hives by separating the hive into two and confining the queen to brooding area with an extruder. The second potion of the hive will have honey and with the ' maanas' or the larvae and yield will be more. Practically we are able to get 10kg of honey per hive in a good season and two seasons can get as much as 20 or 15kg. Building the colonies moss moss.
Bees can be trained just like dogs and the rest of the animals. our hives are less 20 metres from the house with one less than 10 meters from the house. Unless disturb they don't bit. Retailing our honey at 500 sh per kg. The demand is huge
Kaigangio
#16 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:14:59 PM
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Baratang wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Any experienced beekeeper?

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My old man was a small scale beekeeper and was using the top bar beehive. It could produce even upto 25kg in a good season. He had 8 beehives.

The main things that i used to observe happening is that during harvesting a lot of bees were killed and the honey combs often were lased with a lot of lavae.


I think so many dead bees was as a result of poor harvesting method of using too much smoke and in some instances heat or both at the same time..too much smoke and heat do kill them bees.

As for the too much lavae in the comb...there was no separate chamber for the brood and the queen bee. So as a result the queen was laying the eggs in the honey com while at the same time the bee worker girls were busy filling up the comb with honey.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
smallfama
#17 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:57:06 PM
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[quote=wairegi]As many have contributed this is a good venture..for hobby the hives can be as simple as the African pot, the round 20 litres tins(Need to insulate against the heat during. Lagging with glass
smallfama
#18 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:00:16 PM
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[quote=wairegi]As many have contributed this is a good venture..for hobby the hives can be as simple as the African pot, the round 20 litres tins(Need to insulate against the heat during. Lagging with glass
Kaigangio
#19 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:03:50 PM
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wairegi wrote:
As many have contributed this is a good venture..for hobby the hives can be as simple as the African pot, the round 20 litres tins(Need to insulate against the heat during. Lagging with glass or old sisal sacks will do. The african log hive not so common this days. For the topbar and langstroth hive they are both costly but yields are better.
We currently improving of the top bar and the other less improvised hives by separating the hive into two and confining the queen to brooding area with an extruder. The second potion of the hive will have honey and with the ' maanas' or the larvae and yield will be more. Practically we are able to get 10kg of honey per hive in a good season and two seasons can get as much as 20 or 15kg. Building the colonies moss moss.
Bees can be trained just like dogs and the rest of the animals. our hives are less 20 metres from the house with one less than 10 meters from the house. Unless disturb they don't bit. Retailing our honey at 500 sh per kg. The demand is huge


@ wairegi

unless you are constructing the top bar hive with hardwood and foundation frames, it is generally cheap to construct...also as a correction once the queen has been confined into her own chamber with her own comb, there is no way she can venture into the honey chamber and as such, on harvesting there will be no brood in the honey comb...just honey and wax.

If i may ask..for the improved top bar hive,

1. What is the overall size of the hive?

2. What are the optimised sizes of the brood chambers?

3. Are you subdividing the honey chamber into further smaller ones?

4. Are you using any frames in the brood and honey chambers?

5. What is the size of the mesh window for the queen excluder?

6. How do you handle bee swarming in this type of hive?

have you ever tried the langstroth beehive?


...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Kaka M
#20 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:40:00 PM
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C & P (between 2k to 5k bees for a start which i think is good enough.)

How do you count this bees without them stinging?( pun intended) Meanwhile Check Shamba shape up in facebook, and I think they have a website too. In FB also a number of members(institutions) discuss about farming, you could see if they have discussions about bee keeping.
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