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Longhorn Listing
murchr
#121 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:47:43 AM
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StatMeister wrote:
So they give a profit warning, and 1 week later they post losses.

Beats me this logic of profit warnings, thought all companies do monthly and YTD book-keeping.


Kwani what is a profit warning?
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mlennyma
#122 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:59:43 AM
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This counter will screw pple,its a bad start it has just entered the nse hata haija kaa chini!another britam
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VituVingiSana
#123 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:36:04 AM
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StatMeister wrote:
So they give a profit warning, and 1 week later they post losses.

Beats me this logic of profit warnings, thought all companies do monthly and YTD book-keeping.
Conmanship. The 'Profit Warning' should have been given when they listed! See my posts above.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
StatMeister
#124 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:35:18 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Centum has a 35% stake in the company.
This points to reduced earnings for Centum come half year.


Its actually 2-pronged, no dividends (no revenues) + lower valuations (unrealized loss)
A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
VituVingiSana
#125 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:04:11 PM
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StatMeister wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Centum has a 35% stake in the company.
This points to reduced earnings for Centum come half year.


Its actually 2-pronged, no dividends (no revenues) + lower valuations (unrealized loss)
Centum can always make a 'small' purchase at a higher price to boost the (fake) market value!

As for 'new' investors, stay far away from LKL until it drops below 10/- (at which point re-assess before buying)
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
hisah
#126 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:51:14 PM
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Closed @14.55. Listing price was 14/- on 30/05/2012. Supply side was 128 times the demand... Good luck!

The fanfare - http://www.centum.co.ke/...fter-listing-on-the-nse-
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StatMeister
#127 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:52:23 PM
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The next Neveready
A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
hisah
#128 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:54:20 PM
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The Kshs. 819 million listing on the Alternative Investment Market Segment (AIMS) saw Longhorn become the first publishing firm to go public in East Africa. A week later, the share price is up over 40% reversing the trend of recent IPO’s that have subsequently seen a sustained collapse in share price.
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Aguytrying
#129 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:19:14 PM
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Now only cic will be left to join the plunge. These companies take us for granted, spectacular profits the year before listing followed by loses- britam n lkl. The next year.

All new listing should be treated with caution preferably avoided, esp if in a bull market
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hisah
#130 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:16:34 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Now only cic will be left to join the plunge. These companies take us for granted, spectacular profits the year before listing followed by loses- britam n lkl. The next year.

All new listing should be treated with caution preferably avoided, esp if in a bull market

IPOs are floated during bullish markets. You cant get suckers in bear markets! But I remember Coop floated in Dec 2008. I thot that was suicidal, but the rebound was furious when it came.
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hisah
#131 Posted : Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:14:33 PM
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VWAP - 14.30 on 100 shares traded. Hopeless counter!
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VituVingiSana
#132 Posted : Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:12:10 PM
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The only reason this counter is staying at current levels is because there are a limited number of sellers. It will drop over time or just not rise on any significant volumes!

Look at it AFTER it drops below 10. Even at 10, be cautious & review it the financials...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
hisah
#133 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 5:17:48 PM
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136 days later after floatation, LKL closes sub listing price of 14/-

VWAP - 13.95/-
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youcan'tstopusnow
#134 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 5:43:23 PM
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hisah wrote:
136 days later after floatation, LKL closes sub listing price of 14/-

VWAP - 13.95/-

hisah wrote:
136 days later after floatation, LKL closes sub listing price of 14/-

VWAP - 13.95/-

Surprise! Surprise! That makes it Longhorn, Britak and TCL. CIC was on the cusp of a similar fate a few weeks back going as low as 3.65.
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
hisah
#135 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 6:22:37 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
hisah wrote:
136 days later after floatation, LKL closes sub listing price of 14/-

VWAP - 13.95/-

hisah wrote:
136 days later after floatation, LKL closes sub listing price of 14/-

VWAP - 13.95/-

Surprise! Surprise! That makes it Longhorn, Britak and TCL. CIC was on the cusp of a similar fate a few weeks back going as low as 3.65.

I would be shocked if CIC was to test below 3.50/- Huge volume (Volume spread) has come in at the 3.65 - 4.00 level for weeks now. The base is being formed. I expect it to rally like Coop back in 2009 and 2010 as the supply gets absorbed at the current level. In 2yrs time this thing will rally 100% going by Coop bank's pattern.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
youcan'tstopusnow
#136 Posted : Friday, September 28, 2012 7:54:44 PM
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hisah wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
hisah wrote:
136 days later after floatation, LKL closes sub listing price of 14/-

VWAP - 13.95/-

hisah wrote:
136 days later after floatation, LKL closes sub listing price of 14/-

VWAP - 13.95/-

Surprise! Surprise! That makes it Longhorn, Britak and TCL. CIC was on the cusp of a similar fate a few weeks back going as low as 3.65.

I would be shocked if CIC was to test below 3.50/- Huge volume (Volume spread) has come in at the 3.65 - 4.00 level for weeks now. The base is being formed. I expect it to rally like Coop back in 2009 and 2010 as the supply gets absorbed at the current level. In 2yrs time this thing will rally 100% going by Coop bank's pattern.

With the market looking up, sub 3.50 doesn't seem to be on the cards.
However, it is still valued at a premium in comparison with other insurers.
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
hisah
#137 Posted : Tuesday, October 09, 2012 5:15:51 PM
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Graphics presented with no comment... VWAP @10.85/-

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VituVingiSana
#138 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:38:58 AM
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hisah wrote:
Graphics presented with no comment... VWAP @10.85/-

I see it dipping below 10/- if there is a significant volume traded. This is a share I would have loved to short!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
hisah
#139 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:08:00 PM
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VWAP @10/- the nosedive has accelerated in October as capitulation spooks shaky hands...
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hisah
#140 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 4:12:54 PM
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November begins @ 9/-

The nosedive...
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