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Benzino
#11 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 3:04:58 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
pleasecallme wrote:
Between Toyota Corolla NZE and Nissan Sylphy G11 (2006/7+), which one is better in terms of handling, engine performance and reliability?

Forget about comfort, style or design. Asanteni!



In my previous motoring life I have owned a toyota (AE100) and also a Nissan (B14) and the Toyota was more superior in terms of performance (EFI engine), handling, reliability, comfort (independent suspension) and also the design. I believe it must be the same for newer models. The toyota was also more expensive to buy.


@Jaggernaut - Asante sana for the assist.

This indeed is "Toyota Country", no doubt. However, the game has changed, other car-makers have sorted out their gremlins. In terms of fuel consumption and general running costs, I bet the new Nissan Sylphy beats the corolla any day, despite having a 2 Liter Engine.
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premio
#12 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 8:56:28 PM
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Am not sure which game Nissan upped since i did own a SYLPHY and disposed it off in 2010 after it cost a certain sensor that cost me 25k. I know people who have been messed by toyotas but the numbers are a drop in the pacific compared to nissan u move to a respectable garage u will see many nissans and mitshubishis relatively new on top of stones awaiting owners to raise sme funds. As we talk my friend in langata is awaiting to raise 60k to buy a new wingroad engine after speding 18k trying to fix. Its a 2005 KBQ.NZE unless u drive it without oil or water will never stop on its own.I was toyota biggest hater until i bought the sylphy.
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premio
#13 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 8:59:35 PM
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X-trail is the only nissan that seems to commands some respect around as long as u are ready to pay the expensive parts and drive it with check engine permanently on the dash
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pleasecallme
#14 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 10:27:07 PM
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am surely more enlightened by the bright and varied minds of wazuans..let me weigh the options and see. thanks all
You kill bird...bird dead snake come.
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mawinder
#15 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:57:17 AM
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premio wrote:
Am not sure which game Nissan upped since i did own a SYLPHY and disposed it off in 2010 after it cost a certain sensor that cost me 25k. I know people who have been messed by toyotas but the numbers are a drop in the pacific compared to nissan u move to a respectable garage u will see many nissans and mitshubishis relatively new on top of stones awaiting owners to raise sme funds. As we talk my friend in langata is awaiting to raise 60k to buy a new wingroad engine after speding 18k trying to fix. Its a 2005 KBQ.NZE unless u drive it without oil or water will never stop on its own.I was toyota biggest hater until i bought the sylphy.

i should read through threads.bought a sylphy yesterday for 800k.was attracted by its looks and the fact that it is 1490cc.was ripped.
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Benzino
#16 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:24:15 AM
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premio wrote:
X-trail is the only nissan that seems to commands some respect around as long as u are ready to pay the expensive parts and drive it with check engine permanently on the dash


I have to commend Kenyans for really marketing the Toyota Brand. Without running the risk of being branded as a badly-informed rumor monger, I have made the following observations [No statistical data available]:

1. Most of the chaps who owned the older edition of premio moved on up to buy the Xtrail (when it was a lot cheaper).

2. The Guys who owned the earlier edition of NZE, have all moved up to buy Toyota Wish. (Bigger Engine, Bigger hauling space)

3. This argument always boils down to who shouts loudest. The guys at Toyota perfected the art of shouting down their rivals,who may have superior products but very poor marketing strategy e.g Nissan, Honda, Subaru etc.


I have never seen anyone who buys a second NZE, after disposing off an older NZE. It is a cheap car to run, but a crap car to drive.--- My 2 cents.
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mawinder
#17 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:38:19 AM
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Lakini for wish u need to burglar proof it and it looks ugly after burglar proofing.
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nakujua
#18 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:39:35 AM
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premio wrote:
Am not sure which game Nissan upped since i did own a SYLPHY and disposed it off in 2010 after it cost a certain sensor that cost me 25k. I know people who have been messed by toyotas but the numbers are a drop in the pacific compared to nissan u move to a respectable garage u will see many nissans and mitshubishis relatively new on top of stones awaiting owners to raise sme funds. As we talk my friend in langata is awaiting to raise 60k to buy a new wingroad engine after speding 18k trying to fix. Its a 2005 KBQ.NZE unless u drive it without oil or water will never stop on its own.I was toyota biggest hater until i bought the sylphy.


a respectable garage placing vehicles on top of stones, a new wingroad engine for 60k, a single sensor worth 25k made you dispose off a car - for how long had you owned the car ?
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Sigiriri
#19 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2012 11:37:40 AM
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Too many myths on this thread - if someone knows one Sylphy that has issues, it doesn't mean all the Nissans have issues. I know of a taxi company that has close to 100 NZE's - and their workshop is ever busy. All sorts of problems - including gear box, sensors etc. But that doesn't make an NZE a bad car.

We need to move from castigating brands coz of a few bad examples. I bought a car 4 years ago - I had the options of: NZE, Fielder, Mitsubishi Cedia - at the last minute I came across an Opel Astra on offer by IBC. I can guarantee you that every single person I spoke to discouraged me from buying the Opel. I went ahead and bought it after doing my own research. It cost me 200K less than the Fielder & NZE. It costs me the same exact amount per service and consumes the same as the 1.8 premio (which is now at 1.2M), fielder and even the wish. As far as I am concerned, pundits can scream from the rooftops - but I made a good decision.

I advise that you do your research - listen to opinions first then do your research against those opinions. Ultimately, buy what will make you happy and what will make you feel that your money was well spent.
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Benzino
#20 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:14:18 PM
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Sigiriri wrote:
Too many myths on this thread - if someone knows one Sylphy that has issues, it doesn't mean all the Nissans have issues. I know of a taxi company that has close to 100 NZE's - and their workshop is ever busy. All sorts of problems - including gear box, sensors etc. But that doesn't make an NZE a bad car.

We need to move from castigating brands coz of a few bad examples. I bought a car 4 years ago - I had the options of: NZE, Fielder, Mitsubishi Cedia - at the last minute I came across an Opel Astra on offer by IBC. I can guarantee you that every single person I spoke to discouraged me from buying the Opel. I went ahead and bought it after doing my own research. It cost me 200K less than the Fielder & NZE. It costs me the same exact amount per service and consumes the same as the 1.8 premio (which is now at 1.2M), fielder and even the wish. As far as I am concerned, pundits can scream from the rooftops - but I made a good decision.

I advise that you do your research - listen to opinions first then do your research against those opinions. Ultimately, buy what will make you happy and what will make you feel that your money was well spent.

@Sigiri - Well Put sir.Applause

As I said in my post, this argument is usually determined by who shouts the loudest e.g. Honda has been having Vvti Technology in their cars since 1992. Toyota joined the fray somewhere in year 2000,and boy oh boy,haven't they harped about it.. In the meantime,its good to see there are more people out there who think outside the box and steer away from the noise.
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