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VituVingiSana
#1931 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 7:33:28 PM
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2012 wrote:
Many people made their cash but greed won't let them sell. I still wonder what people were doing holding this counter at 15/-.
Right now if I'm Puma, I wouldn't pay more than 13/- a share! Why should I while I'm coming in as the messiah? It makes business sense.
Simple. Most shareholders (including the majority) have 'eaten' the loss. Then it is time to look ahead. KK remains in a strong position in the market. 1) It has cut back on Deal Poa hence it will sell lower volumes at a higher margin but probably (overall) higher profits.
2) K-Card in so many hands. The 2/- discount will still keep me going to KK.
3) The EAC economies continue expanding so volumes will increase over time.
4) Lower financing costs as interest rates drop from 28% to 20% and probably lower towards December.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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guru267
#1932 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 7:33:35 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
guru267 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Watch KK make money in H2 2012!


You are setting yourself up for serious heartache and ulcers!!

I have issues with a management that burns 30% of shareholder funds in a hedging experiment! Im out first thing tomorrow because my reason for holding KK was not the puma buyout!

OK. Which broker do you use? How many do you want to sell? What price?


Dyer & Blair!
55,500units
13.50bob
@9.30am
I was being greedy. I bid at 13 but someone beat me to it. Care to lower it to 13.10 tomorrow?


I already got out today at an average of 13.85... smile I've Ploughed every last cent into simba and I ain't looking back!

Lets meet in 2013 & compare notes!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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VituVingiSana
#1933 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 7:38:48 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Only managed to offload 500shares @ 14bob so far..

only 50k to go! Sad
How about 13.10 for all 50K? Kesho?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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VituVingiSana
#1934 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 7:41:23 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Given this loss, Id say 17.00 to be a fair buyout price
( I know....they got to me )


Indeed the huge loss has got to us. It has eaten KES 2.6 per share of our hard earned retained earnings. However, going forward is BRIGHT. H2 2012, KK will reverse a good portion of the damage done in H1 2012. That put into consideration, the fair buyout price should be >KES 20.

Bullish Much?
I see your now the one spearheading KK's Public relations now smile
Pray Pray Pray Buyout > 20
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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VituVingiSana
#1935 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 7:43:55 PM
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guru267 wrote:
I have finally said goodbye to this counter at an average of 13.85bob..

That is a commendable 25% over my average buy + commissions!

Now i wait to see how much the Guys waiting for puma will make from KK..
Let's note the date. You sold out at 13.85 on 10 Sep 2012. Let's see where we are headed from here!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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VituVingiSana
#1936 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 7:48:19 PM
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guru267 wrote:

I already got out today at an average of 13.85... smile I've Ploughed every last cent into simba and I ain't looking back!

Lets meet in 2013 & compare notes!
I have nothing against ROAR... It has done very well.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Jamani
#1937 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 7:57:45 PM
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cnn
#1938 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 8:04:35 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I have finally said goodbye to this counter at an average of 13.85bob..

That is a commendable 25% over my average buy + commissions!

Now i wait to see how much the Guys waiting for puma will make from KK..
Let's note the date. You sold out at 13.85 on 10 Sep 2012. Let's see where we are headed from here!

@vvs..at 13 bob you must be at least 25% up if you did not indulge at the levels KK has been trading after the trading suspension was lifted,why would you want to hold out for a take over bid whose timeline if ever is becoming increasingly blurred,and probably losing you opportunities elsewhere?
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guru267
#1939 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 8:19:27 PM
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cnn wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I have finally said goodbye to this counter at an average of 13.85bob..

That is a commendable 25% over my average buy + commissions!

Now i wait to see how much the Guys waiting for puma will make from KK..
Let's note the date. You sold out at 13.85 on 10 Sep 2012. Let's see where we are headed from here!

@vvs..at 13 bob you must be at least 25% up if you did not indulge at the levels KK has been trading after the trading suspension was lifted,why would you want to hold out for a take over bid whose timeline if ever is becoming increasingly blurred,and probably losing you opportunities elsewhere?


Its a marriage thing! Sad
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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sparkly
#1940 Posted : Monday, September 10, 2012 8:19:43 PM
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Jamani wrote:
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Employees+sue+KenolKobil+boss/-/1006/1501730/-/mdh6hb/-/index.html


When will employees know that a company belongs to the shareholders?

You cannot refused to be sacked, just like your employer cannot refuse your resignation.

Even the court cannot compel a company to retain an employee, just to compensate according to the contract of employment and the labour laws.

Are the employees taking a pay cut since the company has made huge losses?
Life is short. Live passionately.
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