There is no exclusion. Everything is included. To exclude is to 'die' and of course to 'kill'.

I am is infinite; a stream of consciousness each instantiated in time as a 'partial fraction'.

Who is a person? A word in the midst of words - relationships and roles- sometimes instantiated physically. These instances we call 'images of God'.

Where these words come from is the mythological world; God's world. The spiritual world. The spirit of eternal man with the agenda for perfect harmony.

So to me, saying 'I am theistic, or atheistic' is to cease being. I am 'rowing gently down the stream'.

This denial and acceptance is the conflict in attempts at reconciliation. For certainly, we must reconcile. For we have identity. We are one.

What is the point in being so aggressive in preaching atheism?[/quote]

The power of logic and reason...You would be amazed at how powerful it is....As an atheist, you get to see the world much more vividly... We are just trying to emancipate your minds, help you stop living in fear....Being an atheist is one of the best things that ever happened to me....I have accomplished so much more this way because I have a better understanding of life and humanity now that I am free from the shackles of religion....That's why we atheists laugh at you theists, we feel sorry for you.

I knew you would take the money route. NO, I didn't give him any money. I don't even attend that church. He is not a big shot pastor. But he told me something I hadn't shared with anyone! Wapi scientific explanation for this?

Problem with you atheists is that engaging you is just going round and round without achieving anything. Even if you witnessed a miracle, you wouldn't still believe in the Almighty God because you believe in smething else!(I'm sure you guys hate that word believe)

May God bring you to a point of realising that he is there. All we can do for you is pray.

But I'm happy that you are now preaching in only 1 thread!

He likes showing up and postin when we are asleep(I know I know the tyme zones don't explain)

questions to aethists.

-Would you marry a bible prophecying person? I mean can an aethist fall in love with a believer say a mukorino?
-Suppose you marry a fellow aethist and they later convert, will you divorce?
-Who/what justifies aethists?
-Would you accord your kids the freedom of worship if you had some?
-When (age) did you discover that God doesn't exist?
-Since man is spirit soul and Body,How do u satisfy your spirit?
-Is absence of proof the proof of absence?

Please keep it short and brief.

[quote=essyk]He likes showing up and postin when we are asleep(I know I know the tyme zones don't explain)

questions to aethists.

-Would you marry a bible prophecying person? I mean can an aethist fall in love with a believer say a mukorino?

Yes, I can marry a bible thumper, a muslim a mokorino, anything under the sun, as long as I am in love with them...Plus to add to that, I am Kiuk and I can marry a Luo, a Luhya, etc....Like I said, atheists don't care about all the nonsense that theists and tribalists fight about everyday....We just care about humanity, period...

-Suppose you marry a fellow aethist and they later convert, will you divorce?


Hell NO...Everybody is free to do what makes them happy..If I marry and atheist and they convert and they are happy then I will be happy for her....Only problem that I have with theists is when they try to shove their religion down our throats...Everywhere you go, you always meet a bible thumper trying to make you go to their church, or asking you kama umeokoka, it's like, get a life and understand that I am not automatically Christian just because I am Kenyan...Theists don't respect or tolerate anything different from them...I have been banned from some of my theists house for being an atheists and yet anybody is welcome in my house....Like I said in an earlier post, I even bow my head when theists are praying....But tell a theist that you are atheists, you might even be persecuted by the stupid ones if you are not carefully...That hate and intolerance is why we have all these religious wars and problems around the world....You will never hear atheists going to war with muslims or chritians in the name of a god, we are not that weak minded....

-Who/what justifies aethists?

A peaceful and progressive human race devoid of religious turmoil. We just want people to use logic and understand that only human being can save their fellow human beings and not some fictional god who is only interested in playing "mysterious" games while humanity continues to suffer everyday...

-Would you accord your kids the freedom of worship if you had some?

The one thing I will never do if and when I get a child is influence in any way him or her religiously or politically....When I get married, those are the two things that my wife and I will swear to never talk to our kids about....I will let them make their own decisions out of their own experiences in life and if they chose to become religious, any religion as long as they are not extremists, then I will support them 100%. No questions asked.

-When (age) did you discover that God doesn't exist?

I have always had my doubts since I was young...I had a very dear person in my life painfully suffer and then later succumb to cancer and yet we would pray everyday, have mother's union meetings come to our house every sunday for prayers, plead with god to at least not make her suffer so much, ask god why he was doing it, why he couldn't just make the pain go away, and then she lost her battle and that's when I understood that there is no go because if he were there, he would never let anybody suffer like that and do nothing about it....And if he is there and he let all that happen, then he is somebody that I would not want to be associated with at all....It would had been more fitting if he had just let her succumb early, but to keep her around for a long long time with the pain that she went through, that's bordering on saddistic...

-Since man is spirit soul and Body,How do u satisfy your spirit?

I don't have a spirit...I just live and do good by my neighbor and I hope that they do good by me...Everything else is just a figment of theists imaginations...

-Is absence of proof the proof of absence?

That question just made me dizzy I might need a stiff drink to answer it....lol

Please keep it short and brief.

Ooops, I saw this too late, you should already know that I have a big mouth and can keep going for hours on end....Next time I will scroll to the bottom of the page for the directions before I start rambling...lol