Fact:
The universe might have existed.How?I dont know but the harmony and balance that it is in didn't just come out of nothing.There is an intelligent designer out there and there's already alot to prove that.Christians call this designer God,muslims Allah etcetc....Religion is just used to explain this phenomenon that most of you guys don't understand,bash the bible all you want but do you have a better explanation for the balance and all these constants of physics that keep you floating on a fat ass rock in an empty infinite space?
You people are as ignorant as that hunter/gatherer who lives a further 100km from your villages.

A world view is not a roof for us to rest under, but rather, is a prod that keeps us going, despite the uncertainty, ignorance, powerlessness, and seeming futility of our efforts.

To stick to a particular world view is to refuse conversation.

There is no fence.

Being is choosing; choosing is excluding, or rather, not choosing. When you choose, you do not choose.

I have some interest in quantum physics.

and thats the purpose of this thread. To give atheists 1 thread where they can preach what they believe/dont believe. They have been blaming religion for everything

This God guy, why does he have to make everything so complicated? he is supposed to be omni everything, right? omniscient, omnipresent etc...That means that with the snap of a finger, he can end all the suffering and doubt and wars, and famine and diseases in an instant...

Why doesn't he just do that so that we can all just have a good life on this earth? What's his deal? Does he enjoy seeing kids starving death in Africa every 5 minutes when he has the capability of stopping the hurt? Does he enjoy seeing people suffer untold pain from diseases like cancer and AIDS and yet he can give us a cure in 5 seconds if he realy exists? What's the purpose of worhipping him and praying? Why do we have to pray if he can already just give us what we need?

Do we have to ask him for stuff? If he knows that somebody is broke and needs a meal, does he have to wait for that person to pray and beg for a meal? Why doesn't he just end the suffering? Why doesn't he just get rid of sin so that we can all live a perfect life on earth...There is too much suffering in this earth and yet your god is only interested in being worshipped and thanked everyday....Does he have low self esteem? What exactly are we thanking him for? The world is f***ed up, and yet we are busy getting on our knees to thank him? For what? Kids are dying but this god guy is only interested in sending people who did not kiss his ass to hell? And yet he clams to love all his "children"...

You guys complicate issues with your bible verses, some of you don't even know why you are religious, you just do it out of fear of going to this mythical hell and in the hopes that you will get a pass into heaven...Thsi faith is not even real, it's a quid pro quo arrangement where you theists are in it just so you can be rewarded later.....Why? If you are going to be a good person, do it because it's the right thing to do, not because you are hoping to get an invitation into heaven...

I have a clean conscience, I help my fellow man because it's what I would liek for him to do for me if i ever needed help, I am not going to do anything to please someone so that I can be rewarded later...There is no integrity in that, it's a sleazy way of living your life....This god guy must have some serious issues...If he can just sit back up there or wherever he is and watch infants and toddlers starve to death, then I don't want to be associated with him in any way, shape or form...That is not the kind of person I would want around me....

If I were thsi god guy, that supposedly has the power to solve everything, I would end the suffering on DAY 1. Everybody would be free of any suffering in this world and everybody would have a happy life...Why NOT? What is he waiting for? Does he enjoy when people kiss his ass everyday in the name of worship and prayers and all the other nonsense? Does he enjoy all that ass kissing that he fears that if he ends the suffering in the world, nobody would kiss his ass anymore? is he a glutton for ass-kissing? What the f*** man?

We can sit here and quote bible verses, shit, we've been doing it for years and years, but what good has that done other than theists trying to out-do each other on how much they know the bible? Theists will quote verses and debate about this and that, but the fact is, children are still dying everyday, so put doen that stupid bible that tells you to kill people who work on sabbath and to kill women who are not virgins on their wedding day, and start using your brains you dolts....There is like thousands denominations and religions on this earth, you people are too dumb to understand that you are Christian or Muslim because of where you were born....Your parents indictronized you, if you were born in Saudi Arabia, you wold have been Muslim....All children are born atheists,it's what their parents posions their mind with that they become....The primitive tribe (pariha) that lives in the amazon are atheists because they don't have any civilization and nobody has planted any religious BS in their heads....Will they going to hell because they did not worship your god? Get real..

This god of yours doesn't exist and if he does, then tell him that humanity needs him RIGHT NOW...we are tired of reading his silly book and trying to figure shit out...Eveidently, we can't solve our problems on earth, so if he can snap his fingers and help us end the madness and suffering on this earth, then he needs to do that or he is the biggest douchebag around....What a loving god? you have to be kidding me. At getting saved, saved from what???????

If you want me to believe in your god and that he answers prayers, I would like for all your theists today to pray for a cure for cancer..tell your god that people are suffering and he needs to stop being a dick and give us the cure....if he does that and we have a cure tomorrow,then am getting "saved" or whatever you guys call that nonsense....But if he doesn't, then maybe he just doesn't care too much about your prayers or he simply DOES NOT EXIST....

Now I know that I will surely be banned from this sitre so this might as well be my parting shot....It's been real wazua....Peace.