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Mumisa Sugar FY 2011/12 Results
FUNKY
#1 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 9:19:48 AM
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King G
#2 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 9:25:44 AM
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This was expected, we had been warned earlier in the month by mzee njung'e the insider of mumias.
Thieves
FUNKY
#3 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 9:27:11 AM
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http://bit.ly/PDzyUv

50 cts dividend declared...so things not bad after all
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#4 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 9:30:49 AM
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This one missed a profit warning by a whiskersmile
No wonder the wait till end month & on a Friday,just before weekend!
Sub 6 here we come!
Timely exit for Kidero?
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StatMeister
#5 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 9:37:01 AM
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Am trying to reconcile the 33% decrease reported by Reuters and the 4% growth reported by Mumias
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King G
#6 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 9:47:23 AM
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At least fear made me leave at 6.8 bob, not bad!
Thieves
mypesa
#7 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 11:07:34 AM
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If he failed to deliver @ mumias sugar as CEO for many years,can we trust him as nairobi Governor .
Again just my opinion regarding KIDERO EVANS
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#8 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 11:30:10 AM
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StatMeister wrote:
Am trying to reconcile the 33% decrease reported by Reuters and the 4% growth reported by Mumias


One is on Gross profit the othe on on PAT. They attributed it to tax benefits
Foresight..
Njung'e
#9 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 11:36:33 AM
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mypesa wrote:
If he failed to deliver @ mumias sugar as CEO for many years,can we trust him as nairobi Governor .
Again just my opinion regarding KIDERO EVANS


How did he fail to deliver??....In my opinion,EK did a sterling job at MSC.He initiated expansion of processing,branding,packaging,fortifying,Co-generation,ethanol,water,erp amongst many other projects which have enabled the company to grow and stay afloat.The same earned him CEO of the year at one time.Most who know him would completely disagree with you.Would he deliver as a Nairobi Gavana?.My honest opinion is yes!...but that i leave to politiks.Back to business!
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mzalendomoja
#10 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 11:37:25 AM
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The company was expected to have made a lot of quid given the crazy sugar prices at the beginning of this year.Or were they slow in responding to the business opportunity? with 60% market share, MSC should have done better.
StatMeister
#11 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 12:36:17 PM
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mzalendomoja wrote:
The company was expected to have made a lot of quid given the crazy sugar prices at the beginning of this year.Or were they slow in responding to the business opportunity? with 60% market share, MSC should have done better.


Sugar is not a basic need. Higher prices mean fewer buyers, not good for a factory that makes a margin on processing.

high prices also make good business sense importing sugar.
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Mucene
#12 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2012 10:47:33 AM
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StatMeister wrote:
mzalendomoja wrote:
The company was expected to have made a lot of quid given the crazy sugar prices at the beginning of this year.Or were they slow in responding to the business opportunity? with 60% market share, MSC should have done better.


Sugar is not a basic need. Higher prices mean fewer buyers, not good for a factory that makes a margin on processing.

high prices also make good business sense importing sugar.


I don't think MSC benefited from the high sugar prices towards the end of 2011 and beginning 2012 but it was the wholesalers and retailers who hiked the, Nakumatt Nanyuki was still selling a 2kg pack @ 250/= but restricting buyers to one pack plus purchase of other items at the supermarket. The same was going for about 400/= with other retailers.
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FUNKY
#13 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2012 11:03:05 AM
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@ Statmeister - sugar is a basic need...wanjiku might use one or half tsp for tea instead of 2 tsp but they will still buy sugar!!


mawinder
#14 Posted : Saturday, September 01, 2012 5:09:43 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
@ Statmeister - sugar is a basic need...wanjiku might use one or half tsp for tea instead of 2 tsp but they will still buy sugar!!



leaner times ahead.mumias is now selling a 50kg bag at 3875 down from 6300.
Jamani
#15 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 10:52:02 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
mypesa wrote:
If he failed to deliver @ mumias sugar as CEO for many years,can we trust him as nairobi Governor .
Again just my opinion regarding KIDERO EVANS


How did he fail to deliver??....In my opinion,EK did a sterling job at MSC.He initiated expansion of processing,branding,packaging,fortifying,Co-generation,ethanol,water,erp amongst many other projects which have enabled the company to grow and stay afloat.The same earned him CEO of the year at one time.Most who know him would completely disagree with you.Would he deliver as a Nairobi Gavana?.My honest opinion is yes!...but that i leave to politiks.Back to business!


@ Njung'e well said....
VituVingiSana
#16 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 7:17:02 PM
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I am staying out until a sustainable profit growth can be seen (without the use of tax credits).
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VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Sunday, September 02, 2012 11:34:17 PM
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Mumias facing huge competition from cheaper imports.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/spx55jz/-/index.html
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Aguytrying
#18 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 10:06:21 AM
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Will we continue to use type writters because bringing cheaper computers will put type writers out of business.
Why should the general public pay for the ineffiency of the system.
Im all for the cheaper imports. It will wake up the necessary sectors that can change the efficiency
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maka
#19 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 10:08:25 AM
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I think its still a good stock especially if it goes sub 6...
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King G
#20 Posted : Monday, September 03, 2012 10:44:42 AM
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maka wrote:
I think its still a good stock especially if it goes sub 6...



Waiting for it at 4.8-5.2 bob range.
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