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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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saga wrote:Just because you cannot comprehend the fact of there being a higher power (whatever you perceive it to be)does not mean it does not exist.
Prove it exists....Have you met this god guy you are talking about? You Africans will remain in the dark ages because of silly beliefs like gods and heaven and hell....All those things are just figments of people's imaginations to instill fear into other men so as to have power over their minds...Ours (atheists) is a very vivid world....
So, going by your argument, I guess you will get rewarded and go to heaven and the rest of us atheists will burn in hell? lol...If these delusions you guys have weren't so sad they would actually be funny...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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i dont think there is a point of taking the dead to church, it makes no difference, asha-kachora. LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/13/2010 Posts: 869 Location: Nairobi
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hamburglar wrote:tycho wrote:hamburglar wrote:You religious people are really delusional....lol What does an irreligious person believe? But may be he believes in nothing . . . but how can one show that believing nothing is not delusional? We don't believe in anything, we use reason and logic to navigate through life. No need to believe in things that cannot be proven. Psalms 14:1- 1 The fool has said in his heart,“ There is no God.” ....above all, to stand.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/27/2012 Posts: 320
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nooooooo! no! no! no! edit quickly. the tirade that that will bring is bad for our well being an not worth the trouble it will cause. we wont be able to take it. Light Bearer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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@ hamburglar... an old man once told me...kaigangio, believe in God. in the end if He does not exist you will have nothing to lose...and if He does you still wont lose anything....besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/7/2012 Posts: 180
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@ hamburglar...So how did humans come into existence? Eagles don't flock, you have to find them one at a time.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/27/2006 Posts: 505
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Behemoth wrote:@ hamburglar...So how did humans come into existence? It's called evolution by natural selection
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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Behemoth wrote:@ hamburglar...So how did humans come into existence? @ behemoth, That's a risky question for you to put forward. Would you say where God came from? In the very beginning, where/how did he come into being? You may choose not to answer, but just watch the kind of qn you'll be asking, if any.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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hamburglar wrote:tycho wrote:hamburglar wrote:You religious people are really delusional....lol What does an irreligious person believe? But may be he believes in nothing . . . but how can one show that believing nothing is not delusional? We don't believe in anything, we use reason and logic to navigate through life. No need to believe in things that cannot be proven. Surely @hamburglar, you haven't answered the question! And now that we are speaking matters of logic, is there a relationship between you and logic, or are you logic itself?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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mkeiyd wrote:Behemoth wrote:@ hamburglar...So how did humans come into existence? @ behemoth, That's a risky question for you to put forward. Would you say where God came from? In the very beginning, where/how did he come into being? You may choose not to answer, but just watch the kind of qn you'll be asking, if any. God was there in the beginning. He is eternal
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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mkeiyd wrote:Behemoth wrote:@ hamburglar...So how did humans come into existence? @ behemoth, That's a risky question for you to put forward. Would you say where God came from? In the very beginning, where/how did he come into being? You may choose not to answer, but just watch the kind of qn you'll be asking, if any. There are two ways of answering this 'risky question': That is, answering it from what you were told, and or answering it from what you can see. The risk in the question is in the seeing perspective, for you must be conscious of your faith. It is so much like going to the river to swim only to have your clothes taken.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Kaigangio wrote:@ hamburglar...an old man once told me...kaigangio, believe in God. in the end if He does not exist you will have nothing to lose...and if He does you still wont lose anything.
That's the kind of reasoning that's spawned out of fear...So, what will I have to lose if he exists? A pass into heaven? A one way ticket to hell? "If" he exists and sends me to hell to "burn" eternally, then that is an evil god that I don't want to be associated with in the first place....How eveil do you have to be to send the your so called children to burn just because they did what they felt was right for them? You can keep your evil god nad his heaven for all I care, i don't want to ever be around somebody that is more concerned with keeping tabs on who is worshipping him than he is trying to save children fro starving to death...What is the priority? Finding out who is going to church or ending the suffering in the world.....Your god is as warped as you religious people are....
Do we have to kiss his ass for him to let us into heaven? Isn't that a quid pro quo arrangement? What a shady god, he wants something from us in return of favor of heaven? Why? What is wrong with just being a good human being? I don't care is he exists or not, (I know he doesn't anyway) I do good because it's the right thing to do, not because I am trying to hedge my luck in case he exists...If you are going to be a good human being, be a good human being, period. Don't do it with strings attached because you are afraid that you might get punished since you did not kiss this god guy's ass...I have nothing to lose either way, I will be a good person regardless, I I refuse to do something so as to please somebody in hopes that they will reward me with a "heaven"...If that's your god, then you need to tell him to get off his high horse, why do we need to worship him, for what?????So he can give us a pass into heaven? He can keep his heaven, I would rather go to "hell" knowing that I didn't have to kiss anybody's ass.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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deadpoet wrote:Behemoth wrote:@ hamburglar...So how did humans come into existence? It's called evolution by natural selection Natural selection my friend, you are right on the money...Darwinism is still very rife...Look at the human species, only the strong survive, the weak and the less intelligent ones usually succumb....That's how evolution works.....Strong genes are the ones that shape the future, that's natural selection right there....Even in the animal kingdom, the strongest lion is the one that passes it's genes to future generations.... I laugh when I hear about this god guy creating a man and then creating a woman out of this man's rib and then for some reason having a talking snake trick them onto eating a "forbidden" fruit...lol...Why was it neccessary for this talking snake, lol, to trick them? What was the point? And why does humanity have to suffer because Adam was tricked into eating that fruit? Why do we have to pay for it? Some shit just doesn't make sense....The bible should be a comic book, it has people turning water into wine, some have strength in their hair, some were raised from the dead, some parted the red sea, all these things are scientifically impossible, only 8 year olds are dumb enough to believe that shit...
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/17/2011 Posts: 887
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Ms Mkenya wrote:hamburglar wrote:tycho wrote:hamburglar wrote:You religious people are really delusional....lol What does an irreligious person believe? But may be he believes in nothing . . . but how can one show that believing nothing is not delusional? We don't believe in anything, we use reason and logic to navigate through life. No need to believe in things that cannot be proven. Psalms 14:1- 1 The fool has said in his heart,“ There is no God.” I am very glad to be that fool....
Now you Christians need to go kill everybody that works on the sabbath day if we are to follow what the bible says as per the verse beneath. If you are going to believe the nonsense verse about me being a fool, why don'y you also believe in the verse below?
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Oh, I forgot, Christians only pick and choose verses that fit their agenda...Quote anything else like I did and all you hear is crickets..Loud silence...lol...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Why i believe God doesnt exist; 1.why the difference in races why is it that there are many religions but that 2.one of Christians/Christ is the suprior/subrime of them all. 3. What happens to the billions who never had of the existence of the Christianity and Christ. 4. Why should human be given priority over any other living things. Thieves
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/27/2006 Posts: 505
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Nice, atheists are taking over!!
If there was a God, I'd like to punch him in the face.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/27/2006 Posts: 505
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Let me tone down my earlier provocative post, lest I'm subject to the 'righteous' indignation of the faithful.
What do atheists believe? Here's a short list:
1. Secular humanism
2. Stoicism
3. Daoism /Buddhism
4. Existentialism
5. Dialectic materialism
God is dead, get the memo.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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deadpoet wrote:Let me tone down my earlier provocative post, lest I'm subject to the 'righteous' indignation of the faithful.
What do atheists believe? Here's a short list:
1. Secular humanism
2. Stoicism
3. Daoism /Buddhism
4. Existentialism
5. Dialectic materialism
God is dead, get the memo.
unfortunately i didnt get the memo, kindly send me LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:hamburglar wrote:tycho wrote:hamburglar wrote:You religious people are really delusional....lol What does an irreligious person believe? But may be he believes in nothing . . . but how can one show that believing nothing is not delusional? We don't believe in anything, we use reason and logic to navigate through life. No need to believe in things that cannot be proven. Surely @hamburglar, you haven't answered the question! And now that we are speaking matters of logic, is there a relationship between you and logic, or are you logic itself? It seems you have decided to choose your battles, and avoid this one due to 'grammar'; or is it that you have discovered to your horror perhaps, that you cannot prove that you are not delusional? Can one deny that which he knows not? Certainly you can deny statements regarding a being, but you can not deny the being, unless of course you are the being, and the being is denying itself. And of course, in the case of a being denying itself, we must suspect delusion. By the way, what is there to boast about this thing you call 'atheism'?
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