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LANCE AMSTRONG DETHRONED
willin2learn
#1 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 10:21:59 AM
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Watched this news over the weekend. Lance Armstrong is said to have failed a dope test and has now been stripped of all previous medals. What's wrong these US athletes?
essyk
#2 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 10:37:21 AM
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The cyclist's decision to forfeit his titles and not contest charges by the United States Anti-Doping Agency may be, in a sense, logical

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Armstrong is a ferociously competitive beast, but faced with a process he saw as blatantly unfair and stacked against him, he refused to take part in an arbitration with USADA over the charges.
USADA, the agency that handles drug testing and enforcement for Olympic-level and other elite athletes who compete in global events like the Tour, refused to provide the names of the dozen witnesses slated to testify against him, as is required in U.S. courts. “From the beginning, we have challenged USADA’s motives, methods and authority to proceed with a so-called conspiracy charge against Mr. Armstrong,” his attorneys said in a statement.

With Armstrong’s decision not to arbitrate, his victories have vanished.Certainly, his legend as a cyclist, once tainted, is forever scarred. It was a great one too. Surviving a cancer that had spread from his testicle to his lungs and brain,
Armstrong resolutely defended himself, reminding his critics that he never failed a drug test during his career — 560 in total, according to the Wall Street Journal.So Armstrong decided he was finished defending himself
More than that, he bitterly resents being singled out by USADA and its leader, Travis Tygart, for what he labeled “an unconstitutional witch hunt” — a pursuit that has cost Armstrong millions in legal fees. He was also targeted by federal investigators who spent three years and millions of taxpayer dollars pursuing charges that Armstrong somehow defrauded the government by winning the Tour de France as the leader of the Posties while using PEDs.
When the federal court threw out his suit, Armstrong figured he had no chance in USADA’s court. The agency that had been after him for more than 10 years now stood, in his view, as judge, jury and executioner.Instead, he will take his case to the court of public opinion. And there we can all judge him.




I knew this was coming.
Athletes should stay off drugs.
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Impunity
#3 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 11:06:51 AM
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SEVEN wins for 7 years????
Wow.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Kaigangio
#4 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 11:34:17 AM
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...reminds me of the recent case of the marion jones.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
kizee1
#5 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 12:16:47 PM
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is there any top level athlete who is not on some form of PED? i hear even archers takes drugs called "downers" to calm their nerves..its time sport stop wasting time drug testing athletes there are no clean top tier athletes....in the case of marion jones she beat every test simply because she cud afford a proper "chemist" to design her schedules,she got caught because her "chemist" one MR victor conte ratted her out!
Obi 1 Kanobi
#6 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 12:27:04 PM
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This is rubbish, 7 wins in 7 years of the hardest sport in the world and they never caught him doping, then they wait for 10 years to accuse him of cheating, surely this is nonsense.

For me Lance Amstrong will always be the invincible TDF champion, I dont care what some suit or lab coat wearing geek comes up with.
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kizee1
#7 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 12:35:15 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
This is rubbish, 7 wins in 7 years of the hardest sport in the world and they never caught him doping, then they wait for 10 years to accuse him of cheating, surely this is nonsense.

For me Lance Amstrong will always be the invincible TDF champion, I dont care what some suit or lab coat wearing geek comes up with.

spot on! just because one takes peds doesnt make him/her a champ, the training dedication and natural talent of a true champ cannot be merely created in a lab!...time sports federatiosn stopped bullshitting us and allowed athlets to dope...ultimately the winners podium only has space for one person
sinna
#8 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 12:42:33 PM
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willin2learn wrote:
Watched this news over the weekend. Lance Armstrong is said to have failed a dope test and has now been stripped of all previous medals. What's wrong these US athletes?


I read 'Lance Armstrong' and immediately i thought of those races in France.

In this lifetime, it will take a lot more to dethrone him.
Elder
#9 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 12:46:10 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
This is rubbish, 7 wins in 7 years of the hardest sport in the world and they never caught him doping, then they wait for 10 years to accuse him of cheating, surely this is nonsense.

For me Lance Amstrong will always be the invincible TDF champion, I dont care what some suit or lab coat wearing geek comes up with.

spot on! just because one takes peds doesnt make him/her a champ, the training dedication and natural talent of a true champ cannot be merely created in a lab!...time sports federatiosn stopped bullshitting us and allowed athlets to dope...ultimately the winners podium only has space for one person

It is interesting that you do not see how doping gives whoever is doping an unfair advantage. Kwani the people who do not take drugs all have no natural talents and have no dedication in training?

Doping has always been a cloud over him and @Obi1Kanobi it wasn't a wait of 10 years it is just now that his partners in crime and associates have finally gotten to give the evidence against him. Maybe they are lying about him, maybe not. But the stink is too high from his compatriots for the latter to even appear plausible.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
essyk
#10 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 12:59:12 PM
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He was on PED's for sure.
Read well.The evidence is all out.

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One of his former teammates already came forward last year to seeing illegal substances in his refrigerator, as well as witnessing him use them twice. There were other teammates of his who were ready to come forward against him too.
He knew it was a no-win situation for him and dropping the charges would save him from the embarrassment he would have to go through.


The drugs he was using I understand were ahead of it's time..and they could not test for them.

Wait,you will be hearing about Bolt and his Ped's few years from now.Laughing out loudly
How do u call someone a cheater if the substance is so futuristic.

If Nba Athletes go to Europe to get special procedures done to their knees and get blood spinning.
Others have stem cell procedures.
Kobe suddenly has youthful legs.smile

And so the big question.What is the diff,between modern medicine and cheating?

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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