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CBK MPC Meet!!!
mwekez@ji
#201 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 11:57:14 AM
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hisah wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
^20% m-o-m growth! SMH, yawa...

Gosh! That money supply expansion can only be rivalled by an amoeba mutation process! It is a wonder KES didn't turn into loo paper!


Liar Liar Liar ... 20% m-o-m growth Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Chech table TABLE 5 (a): MONEY SUPPLY

http://knbs.or.ke/sectoral/energy/lei072010.pdf

http://www.knbs.or.ke/news/lei072011.pdf

http://www.knbs.or.ke/news/lei062012.pdf
mwekez@ji
#202 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 12:03:13 PM
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MPC Meeting scheduled for 5th Sept. A good rate cut is in order. 400 bps won’t surprise
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#203 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 12:06:34 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
MPC Meeting scheduled for 5th Sept. A good rate cut is in order. 400 bps won’t surprise

And the stocks will respond upwards!
@SufficientlyP
hisah
#204 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:58:21 AM
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This crude oil thing is not looking cool... The rebound since July is in coils, which means it may surpass the 2012 highs in coming weeks. FAO food index is also flashing red on food prices...
Will MPC maintain CBR at 16.5%? Likely. Credit squeeze to continue Sad
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
guru267
#205 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2012 2:10:11 PM
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hisah wrote:
Will MPC maintain CBR at 16.5%? Likely. Credit squeeze to continue Sad


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Mark 12:29
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hisah
#206 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:25:57 PM
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guru267 wrote:
hisah wrote:
Will MPC maintain CBR at 16.5%? Likely. Credit squeeze to continue Sad


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Dont forget ERC's caveat after announcing fuel prices the other day. The fuel price cut party is almost done! Oil inflation is a headache to any oil importing nation.

Watch out for crude oil prices...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Cde Monomotapa
#207 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:30:20 PM
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With the proposed VAT hikes averted, food, external forex funding & hydro. That's enough room for a deep cut.
hisah
#208 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 6:03:52 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
With the proposed VAT hikes averted, food, external forex funding & hydro. That's enough room for a deep cut.

A 300 - 400bps cbr cut would be welcome. Will they do it? Tbill yields need to be sunk to force deeper cuts.

Btw anyone noticed equity market volume is drying up like in Aug 2010...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Cde Monomotapa
#209 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 7:13:06 AM
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hisah wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
With the proposed VAT hikes averted, food, external forex funding & hydro. That's enough room for a deep cut.

A 300 - 400bps cbr cut would be welcome. Will they do it? Tbill yields need to be sunk to force deeper cuts.

Btw anyone noticed equity market volume is drying up like in Aug 2010...

I thought we'd lose the KES like the UGX after last MPC but CBK has been on top of things via OMO & I figure last year's policy reforms are feeding through now. Kudos. Let's see what happens. I've noted the dry up too. It's like the large buy-side investors packed in & are now fully loaded. Personally, I'm looking for policy direction/stance from the MPC to know whether we can kick the index over 4,200 ASAP.
Cde Monomotapa
#210 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 7:45:54 AM
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August 2010? I recall well smile smile Scan bankrolled a lot of the KCB I have now. Let's play smile
hisah
#211 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 5:48:52 PM
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Tbill 91 day rate smacked down by 86.4bps. Hmmm... CBR rate cut signal...


$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#212 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 6:24:51 AM
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Last week Tbill 91 day rate slid by 86.4bps. This week the rate has slumped by 168.4bps! This has pushed the yield below the 2012 low to stand at 8.583%. The spread between CBR and the 3 tbill classes is now too wide and most likely with inflation now below 9% threshold should make CBK confident enough to cut CBR. Looking at the 91 day yield smackdown, finally CBK is sending strong signals to tbill hoarders that its time to jump off the ship... The bills are no longer offering attractive inflation beating spreads. Most likely a 300bps CBR cut will be favoured. The higher the better to inject more liquidity in the econ which will also bang down those 20s% high lending rates. And as @guru has said, counters with high dividend yields will definitely rally.

@deal - seems Volcker's play book was modified just slightly by CBK... I still see NSE testing 4000 * 4200 before the year ends as the final upthrust. Were 2013 without elections then 4400 would be the target for 2012 assuming CBR is cut by 300bps or more. I don't like the idea of the election in March 2013 when majority of the firms are announcing full year results. On the flip side if elections are smooth sailing then the delayed momentum between Dec and March will be quickly spring up in April. Looks like March 2009 repeat. Notable party spoiler - euroland debt bomb... Keep an eye on it.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#213 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 10:29:15 AM
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Good points @Hisah. The Prof truly setting the stage for a 400bps smackdownsmileAnd even then,it would still be high. It should be close to the level of inflation,max 10% & nothing more.
I would suggest he strangles it by 700bps to 9.50%.
Then we can sell simba at 29bob,mpesa at 5bob and go watch the wildebeest migration at the marasmile
@SufficientlyP
mwekez@ji
#214 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 10:44:27 AM
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91 days T Bill are now sub 10 with a BANG! All eyes are now on 5th Sept MPC meeting. #NSE, Economy & Mi are smilling smile smile smile
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#215 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 10:55:50 AM
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There's going to be a stampede akin to the wildebeest migration from Money mkt to Equitiessmile.....All roads lead to.........
@SufficientlyP
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#216 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 11:00:33 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
hisah wrote:
But when CBR is lowered 600bps in one move, just buy stocks even paka?!

I have a feeling they will pull this stunt in H2, hold it there for like 3 months,& then.....ofcourse raise it back to 17.999% smile .By this time some folks will be smiling all the way to the bank.
Enough money will have been made for the elections smile
Title of the movie.."Only in Kenya" smile

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mwekez@ji
#217 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 9:13:22 AM
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Our norm should be:

91 days tbill at sub 5%, Average deposit rate at c5%, Average lending rate at c15%.

See: Chart 2D: Trends In Interest Rates http://www.centralbank.go.ke/do...r/2012/MerMay%202012.pdf

May we get there.
kaifastus
#218 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 9:38:22 AM
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Laughing out loudly
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
There's going to be a stampede akin to the wildebeest migration from Money mkt to Equitiessmile.....All roads lead to.........

Real estate is also competing for the same funds
Kausha
#219 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 11:21:05 AM
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at 5% rates, The 1 USD to KES will be 100/=. You surely don't want us to get there do you?
mwekez@ji
#220 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 12:54:37 PM
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Kausha wrote:
at 5% rates, The 1 USD to KES will be 100/=. You surely don't want us to get there do you?


We were at sub 5% and KES was well seated at c80/-. Why not again? That asked, I would not mind a c90/- for the sake of the much desired monetary easing
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