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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
mwekez@ji
#61 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 4:50:22 PM
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Book closure was Fri last week. The share has received beating this week but todays beating was outrightly irrational.

BUY BUY BUY smile

The share is a STRONG BUY smile

*Book Value per share is KES 20
*has a very attractive single digit P/E (Trailing P/E of 5.2)
*stand as a big beneficiary of monetary easing that has started
*....

#Watch this space
PKoli
#62 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 8:41:05 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Book closure was Fri last week. The share has received beating this week but todays beating was outrightly irrational.

BUY BUY BUY smile

The share is a STRONG BUY smile

*Book Value per share is KES 20
*has a very attractive single digit P/E (Trailing P/E of 5.2)
*stand as a big beneficiary of monetary easing that has started
*....

#Watch this space


@Mwekezaji,

There is potential upsurge of 20% in this share; price correction. Good for day traders
Aguytrying
#63 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 9:36:18 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Book closure was Fri last week. The share has received beating this week but todays beating was outrightly irrational.

BUY BUY BUY smile

The share is a STRONG BUY smile

*Book Value per share is KES 20
*has a very attractive single digit P/E (Trailing P/E of 5.2)
*stand as a big beneficiary of monetary easing that has started
*....

#Watch this space


experience has taught me to take advantage of mr markets folly.
i wish kk money can be released i splash some serious cash here!!
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
holycow
#64 Posted : Saturday, August 25, 2012 8:20:10 AM
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As soon as the trade of 13.80 printed, placed an order at 14.05 but wasn't lucky. That chance is gone so I'll revise it on Monday.
mwekez@ji
#65 Posted : Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:41:20 AM
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PKoli wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Book closure was Fri last week. The share has received beating this week but todays beating was outrightly irrational.

BUY BUY BUY smile

The share is a STRONG BUY smile

*Book Value per share is KES 20
*has a very attractive single digit P/E (Trailing P/E of 5.2)
*stand as a big beneficiary of monetary easing that has started
*....

#Watch this space


@Mwekezaji,

There is potential upsurge of 20% in this share; price correction. Good for day traders


@PKoli, may the traders make their 20%. Investors should look at exiting at the industry average P/B of 1.7 and at a double digit P/E. That will give more than 100% capital gain.

@Aguytrying, #post 63, i cant agree more.
PKoli
#66 Posted : Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:58:33 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
PKoli wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Book closure was Fri last week. The share has received beating this week but todays beating was outrightly irrational.

BUY BUY BUY smile

The share is a STRONG BUY smile

*Book Value per share is KES 20
*has a very attractive single digit P/E (Trailing P/E of 5.2)
*stand as a big beneficiary of monetary easing that has started
*....

#Watch this space


@Mwekezaji,

There is potential upsurge of 20% in this share; price correction. Good for day traders


@PKoli, may the traders make their 20%. Investors should look at exiting at the industry average P/B of 1.7 and at a double digit P/E. That will give more than 100% capital gain.

@Aguytrying, #post 63, i cant agree more.



I agree, we will see 100% or thereabouts , but I am talking of the short-term price corrections.
the deal
#67 Posted : Sunday, August 26, 2012 1:59:07 PM
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Pension backed mortgages is the next frontier http://bit.ly/OkG86c
mwekez@ji
#68 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 9:28:30 AM
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the deal wrote:
Pension backed mortgages is the next frontier http://bit.ly/OkG86c


Another PLUS for HF.

@PKoli, #Post 66, Agreed.
guru267
#69 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 9:34:12 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
the deal wrote:
Pension backed mortgages is the next frontier http://bit.ly/OkG86c


Another PLUS for HF..


More so for S&L!!

Those gova pensions!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mwekez@ji
#70 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 9:41:10 AM
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guru267 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
the deal wrote:
Pension backed mortgages is the next frontier http://bit.ly/OkG86c


Another PLUS for HF..


More so for S&L!!

Those gova pensions!


@guru, you should know the biggest mortgage lender in the country. The one stop shop for mortgage solutions, HF!
mwekez@ji
#71 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 9:50:26 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
guru267 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
the deal wrote:
Pension backed mortgages is the next frontier http://bit.ly/OkG86c


Another PLUS for HF..


More so for S&L!!

Those gova pensions!


@guru, you should know the biggest mortgage lender in the country. The one stop shop for mortgage solutions, HF!


... & you should also know that gova and NSSF have a substantial interest in HF!!
guru267
#72 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 10:03:52 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
guru267 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
the deal wrote:
Pension backed mortgages is the next frontier http://bit.ly/OkG86c


Another PLUS for HF..


More so for S&L!!

Those gova pensions!


@guru, you should know the biggest mortgage lender in the country. The one stop shop for mortgage solutions, HF!


... & you should also know that gova and NSSF have a substantial interest in HF!!


GOK owns a miniscule 3.80% of HFCK
GOK owns a substantial 18% of KCB...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mwekez@ji
#73 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 10:12:47 AM
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guru267 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
guru267 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
the deal wrote:
Pension backed mortgages is the next frontier http://bit.ly/OkG86c


Another PLUS for HF..


More so for S&L!!

Those gova pensions!


@guru, you should know the biggest mortgage lender in the country. The one stop shop for mortgage solutions, HF!


... & you should also know that gova and NSSF have a substantial interest in HF!!


GOK owns a miniscule 3.80% of HFCK
GOK owns a substantial 18% of KCB...


The point is that GOK and NSSF also hold than 10% of HF. That's substantial.

When it comes to mortgage business, be sure they will 1st visit the one stop mortgage shop, HF.
mwekez@ji
#74 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 10:43:46 AM
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@guru, notice the article is all HF and no KCB. That by itself speaks volumes
guru267
#75 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 12:20:25 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:

When it comes to mortgage business, be sure they will 1st visit the one stop mortgage shop, HF.


HFCK has a market share of 48%
S&L has a market share of 35%

With the recent revamping of S&L and its merger with KCB how much longer will HFCK hold the top spot??

GOK would prefer a partner with adequate capital, huge branch network, and significant influence (25% ownership in KCB)..

S&L can lend up to 8billion per customer while HFCK cant even lend more than 1billion per customer!

I do not see why i would pick HFCK over KCB to handle something of this magnitude..

Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mwekez@ji
#76 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 12:47:55 PM
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guru267 wrote:
S&L can lend up to 8billion per customer while HFCK cant even lend more than 1billion per customer!

I do not see why i would pick HFCK over KCB to handle something of this magnitude..



HF can lend KES 950M to one individual borrower. Tell me one single pensioner who will need more than KES 950M mortgage?!?

HF has a unique way of taking care of its customers. A case in point is when industry rates shot above the roof and S&L squarely hammered its customers. HF did not. Who wouldnt want to be with such a mortgage shop?
the deal
#77 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 1:03:20 PM
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Britak has pension schemes which HF can tape! KCB as a whole can't lend Ksh8bn to one customer, that's like 17% of KCB's total capital!
mwekez@ji
#78 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 1:38:10 PM
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@the deal, britak and HF have lots of synergies. That one is another,

On KCB, it can. Check clause 3.1 of CBK prudential guideline Link

The following said at the clause is a PLUS for HF

The Central Bank of Kenya with the written approval of the Minister may authorize a mortgage finance company to give advances, credits, guarantees or incur liabilities whose values exceed 25% of core capital.
guru267
#79 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 2:04:32 PM
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@the deal S&L can lend up to 8billion kshs PER CUSTOMER..

KCB is not small fry bro!!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
dave.kim
#80 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 8:49:36 PM
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and remember equity n britak collectively own over 40% of HF and they continue to gather more shares. Mr Mwangi may still be eyeing majority stakeholder
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