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Equity Bank chief is creating capitalists
harrydre
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:44:37 PM
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Interesting view from Obbo but I think he went too deep. What would he rather these kids do? Stay at home and consume ARVs?

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murchr
#2 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:20:42 PM
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There is nothing wrong with being a capitalist
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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essyk
#3 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:41:53 PM
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Journalists read too much into things.
I listened to some kids talk about this programme on the bench today and I was humbled and impressed.
You educate one child and he turns a whole village round.
It's this generation that will turn things round in future cz they know what it means to be helped.

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Looking ahead, if these Equity Foundation programmes continue for just another 25 years and remain at the same level, they will have nearly 50,000 of what I would call “Equityzens”.

Because the gender split is nearly 50-50, if by the time half of them are married to people who are not alumni of the programme and have families of three children each, you will have 12,500 Equity men having 37,500 children, and Equity women having 37,500 children too — 75,000 in all. In all, that would give you 125,000 Equityzens.


and what is wrong with that? they will be able and educated equityzens after all.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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#4 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 8:19:58 AM
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Carlos Mopis • a day ago
If other financial institutions would take suit,families would be transformed.Some institutions fund activities that make me wonder whether they understand our people.

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I hope you are talking of activities like Golf, Safari Rally & Rugby when students are at Home without fees to be in school.

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@Leomwa..That is what I meant only that I did not want to specify.The bank's names are now synoymous with these activities.We know the names of banks that we can replace with Safari Rally and Golf.

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Pastor M
#5 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 8:24:22 AM
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my form two son told me that his role model,( Four years ago) is James mwangi, i realised that the world is a global village,we have the best practices in our backyard!! The young people connect and as Sulwebright says, we should swallow our pride for misunderstanding Dr. James Mwangi and labelling him a scammer.

luxel
#6 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 10:12:00 AM
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Nonsense!

As usual mwangi is chest thumping. He is behaving as if Equity is the first company to give scholarships. In fact he is wasting money on the media just to promote his personal bank instead of sponsoring extra students. Most of these funds are actually from MasterCard.

Organizations such as Caltex, Co-op bank, kenolkobil, palm---- have been doing this for years and they only appear in the media when inviting needy students to apply and others don’t coz they have their own way of identifying them.

Equity may be a big organization but that will never change mwangi from a crook to a role model. Never!
Coolio
#7 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 10:24:30 AM
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luxel wrote:
Nonsense!

As usual mwangi is chest thumping. He is behaving as if Equity is the first company to give scholarships. In fact he is wasting money on the media just to promote his personal bank instead of sponsoring extra students. Most of these funds are actually from MasterCard.

Organizations such as Caltex, Co-op bank, kenolkobil, palm---- have been doing this for years and they only appear in the media when inviting needy students to apply and others don’t coz they have their own way of identifying them.

Equity may be a big organization but that will never change mwangi from a crook to a role model. Never!


Pride comes before a fall.
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sheri
#8 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 10:44:30 AM
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@ Luxel you sound so bitter. Mwangi might be a crook but let appreciate what he is doing it might be small in your eyes but it is still something for the unfortunate girls and boys from poor counties such as Turkana among others.
I listened to some beneficiaries giving their stories and it was amazing. Let be positive guys it is the way to go.
TAZ
#9 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 10:52:50 AM
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luxel wrote:
Nonsense!

As usual mwangi is chest thumping. He is behaving as if Equity is the first company to give scholarships. In fact he is wasting money on the media just to promote his personal bank instead of sponsoring extra students. Most of these funds are actually from MasterCard.

Organizations such as Caltex, Co-op bank, kenolkobil, palm---- have been doing this for years and they only appear in the media when inviting needy students to apply and others don’t coz they have their own way of identifying them.

Equity may be a big organization but that will never change mwangi from a crook to a role model. Never!


I think he's already a role model to so many. Actually Equity has had this kind of program for quite some time now. I believe the only reason why this has attracted a lot of attention from the media is probably because its being Sponsored by Equity, MasterCard and USAID and its biggest of its kind....besides i thought this was just a conference! I really don't understand why you are so bitter.
Liv
#10 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 11:04:43 AM
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luxel wrote:
Nonsense!

As usual mwangi is chest thumping. He is behaving as if Equity is the first company to give scholarships. In fact he is wasting money on the media just to promote his personal bank instead of sponsoring extra students. Most of these funds are actually from MasterCard.

Organizations such as Caltex, Co-op bank, kenolkobil, palm---- have been doing this for years and they only appear in the media when inviting needy students to apply and others don’t coz they have their own way of identifying them.

Equity may be a big organization but that will never change mwangi from a crook to a role model. Never!


Please stop the hate
aemathenge
#11 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 12:56:57 PM
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Let me get this straight.

Supposing, God forbid, this Mwangi chap drops dead, does Muiganania stop sponsoring the students.

Shouldn't the credit be directed towards the original founders of the vision? The vision bearer is still alive, isn't he?

Last time I checked, Safcon is doing quite well in the absence of, what is his name again, I forget.

Kenya Commercial Bank is doing brilliantly under the current chap long after Hon. Michuki left it.

So, give @Luxel some slack. He might just have a point.
tycho
#12 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 2:57:25 PM
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Obbo thinks that capitalism is strong and well, and he is trying to please some people with such vibe. I can't imagine him saying the converse and keeping his 'job'.

But if capitalism exists then there must be the class of workers; the peasants who have no voice.

And if the capitalist is educating the peasant, then he is reducing the 'proletarian' class, alas, by his own 'internal contradiction'.

Technological advancement has brought information to the peasant's door step. The 'philanthropist' is losing his value, so is the dictator. So no one can describe the future except in the case of unanimous conversation. Are Obbo's sentiments based on such a conversation?

But maybe he is saying all this because 'we' are silent.
mkeiyd
#13 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 4:09:36 PM
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I'm a fan of Obbo and i don't think he has anything against Mwangi/Equity. All is saying, if institutions were to go Equity's way, we would have the respective "zens", be it political party or a biz entity.
I think he's commending Equity and suggesting others would benefit if they offered scholarship and mentor-ship.
Kunyang my thinking.
kiash
#14 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 6:37:33 PM
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mkeiyd wrote:
I'm a fan of Obbo and i don't think he has anything against Mwangi/Equity. All is saying, if institutions were to go Equity's way, we would have the respective "zens", be it political party or a biz entity.
I think he's commending Equity and suggesting others would benefit if they offered scholarship and mentor-ship.
Kunyang my thinking.


You might be a fan of Obbo but i do not think we read from the same script
maliwaza
#15 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 6:44:49 PM
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mkeiyd wrote:
I'm a fan of Obbo and i don't think he has anything against Mwangi/Equity. All is saying, if institutions were to go Equity's way, we would have the respective "zens", be it political party or a biz entity.
I think he's commending Equity and suggesting others would benefit if they offered scholarship and mentor-ship.
Kunyang my thinking.


I agree. By looking at the long term effects of the scholarship programme, I think he was pointing out an alternative route to building a base, rather than trying to buy/rent loyalty, why not breed your own 'zens', so to speak? I do think Obbo was being a bit tongue-in-cheek though, the Thursday piece usually is.
Better to ask the question and look like a fool for a moment, than to remain in ignorance and be a fool forever.
kiash
#16 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 6:50:52 PM
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Liv wrote:
luxel wrote:
Nonsense!

As usual mwangi is chest thumping. He is behaving as if Equity is the first company to give scholarships. In fact he is wasting money on the media just to promote his personal bank instead of sponsoring extra students. Most of these funds are actually from MasterCard.

Organizations such as Caltex, Co-op bank, kenolkobil, palm---- have been doing this for years and they only appear in the media when inviting needy students to apply and others don’t coz they have their own way of identifying them.

Equity may be a big organization but that will never change mwangi from a crook to a role model. Never!


Please stop the hate


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According to the article, two pupils are picked from every district. We do not know the criteria but God forbid they are not from one region. You talk of KK KCB and others who offer scholarships; what is their criteria? Or is it only known by those who work or are in the network of the said companies?
I have a friend who went to Cuba on a scholarship, few people would have known the existence of such scholarships but he was lucky since his mum worked at the education ministry which has the duty of picking the beneficiaries. Say bravo where it’s evident.
jamplu
#17 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 6:56:43 PM
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talk to the beneficiaries and you'll realize they just don't care about your analysing and overanalysing of the whole matter. Like that blind guy in the bible they don't care about your hate, and petty issues they were once hopeless but now they have hope. they have some education.
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