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NBK! 2011
VituVingiSana
#21 Posted : Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:08:00 AM
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Paul Wanderi Ndungu & the crooked ephraim maina [kirinyaga constrution]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
2012
#22 Posted : Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:10:26 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Paul Wanderi Ndungu


And how did this guy make his money?

BBI will solve it
:)
Mali
#23 Posted : Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:08:52 PM
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2012 wrote:
QD wrote:
Who are the major individual shareholders in this stock?


I was watching Citizen , Who Owns Kenya segment this past wkwnd and they featured NBK. Individual share holders include the very wealthy Eng. Ephraim Maina and that guy who owns that co. that used to sell phones for scom and now orange (( forget the name)


Is that a good thing? for the share to be owned by the wealthy? didn't get the connection... slow I am...
mgeman
#24 Posted : Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:58:28 PM
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githundi wrote:
By the way, what is the number of gok preference shares

1.135bn preferential versus 280mn common. G.O.K owns 79% preferential and 22.5% common. The other major holder NSSF holds 21% preferential and 48% common.
This translates to almost 6 shares for every common. Wazuans is this healthy. Am thinking of boarding this bus!
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githundi
#25 Posted : Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:06:19 PM
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mgeman wrote:
githundi wrote:
By the way, what is the number of gok preference shares

1.135bn preferential versus 280mn common. G.O.K owns 79% preferential and 22.5% common. The other major holder NSSF holds 21% preferential and 48% common.
This translates to almost 6 shares for every common. Wazuans is this healthy. Am thinking of boarding this bus!

thanks @ mgeman for the figure. I had boarded this bus last year unaware of the large no. Of the preferential shares and their effect o b/s and dividends. But when i heard about the proposed restructuring and nssf opposing the same due to the large no of the preferential shares, i bolted out @ 42.50 and no regrets as Atwoli was predicting a price of 16-25 after restructuring and that is why they were against it. I couldn't take the risk and took a bus with a lower level of risk: kplc. Consider this: kplc a monopoly before restructuring had almost such numbers in terms of preferential share and the share price was_250/8=30 pre_restructuring which fell to 25 after, sembuse nbk amidst competition and the large book of non_ performing loans which are equivalent of the ordinary share capital. If this restructuring happens, you will understand the real meaning of dilution as a result of conversion of massive debt to equity. Brother there are better, less riskier buses to board like kplc from tommorrow.
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Mali
#26 Posted : Sunday, January 23, 2011 9:22:10 PM
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Why on hell would anyone want to dilute any share? NBK hitting highs of 46 and someone in his right mind would like the share to be trading at 16! NKT!
Mali
#27 Posted : Friday, February 25, 2011 5:29:41 AM
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Nothing is stopping this bus from hitting 80! I stand to be corrected though...
Tommy
#28 Posted : Friday, February 25, 2011 6:22:05 AM
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Mali wrote:
Nothing is stopping this bus from hitting 80! I stand to be corrected though...

by when?
Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
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#29 Posted : Friday, February 25, 2011 7:12:34 AM
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NBK was supposed to be my high light career investment decision after restructuring/strategic partnership but old uncle Mwiraria took us in circles n broke too many promises.had to jump ship. Two FMs later, same script different cast. Although, i accept NBK had to be n has been fattend to now abt to declare a Div.
Mali
#30 Posted : Friday, February 25, 2011 7:53:01 AM
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Tommy wrote:
Mali wrote:
Nothing is stopping this bus from hitting 80! I stand to be corrected though...

by when?


Dec 2011!
Tommy
#31 Posted : Friday, February 25, 2011 8:00:08 AM
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Mali wrote:
Tommy wrote:
Mali wrote:
Nothing is stopping this bus from hitting 80! I stand to be corrected though...

by when?


Dec 2011!

i doubt it, with the 2012 political noise. btw the elections will be held in august 2012 so i think that the political temp will rise by sept this yr.
Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
Tommy
#32 Posted : Friday, February 25, 2011 8:02:49 AM
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Mali wrote:
Tommy wrote:
Mali wrote:
Nothing is stopping this bus from hitting 80! I stand to be corrected though...

by when?


Dec 2011!

i doubt it, u r expecting over 80% growti with the 2012 political noise. btw the elections will be held in august 2012 so i think that the political temp will rise by sept this yr.
Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
VituVingiSana
#33 Posted : Friday, February 25, 2011 10:09:22 AM
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When will GoK convert the Pref Shares to Ordinary Shares? Therein lies the catch!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mlennyma
#34 Posted : Friday, February 25, 2011 2:12:34 PM
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This is another kplc and kengen version
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Mali
#35 Posted : Tuesday, March 08, 2011 2:27:34 PM
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Down 7% !!! Sitting at 42! Did they say anything?
Apple Bees
#36 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 11:45:45 AM
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today up 8.7% and sitting at 37.50 Anything new?
StatMeister
#37 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 3:24:16 PM
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Mali wrote:
Tommy wrote:
Mali wrote:
Nothing is stopping this bus from hitting 80! I stand to be corrected though...

by when?


Dec 2011!


Did this stock hit 80?
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