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No To Tuition - Ecclesiastes 12:12-13
Coolbull
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:44:17 AM
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If our teachers knew the things of God, they would not be insisting on Holiday Tuition. There is a time for everything and the Word has stated it very clearly.

And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. Ecclesiastes 12:12-13. (Emphasis added).

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:Ecclesiastes 3:1.
Coolio
#2 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:36:57 AM
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Where is the like button? I second your sentiments.
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Mukiri
#3 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:59:51 AM
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AMEN! I find our education system to be flawed. What we are producing is a generation of crammers. People who cram facts but don't know how to put into effect the facts to work for them.

We have a generation of job seekers, not job makers. With the amount of opportunities open to exploitation, our natural resources, Kenya would have been self sustaining eons ago! Our flawed education system is making zombies out of our kids.. (Luckily the ones in my balls are not affectedsmile

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#4 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:21:28 AM
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@Coolbull,you must have read my signature before,sindio?smile
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Njung'e
#5 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:22:42 AM
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Tuition is nothing but money minting and it's sad to what extent teachers will go to get that extra buck.Some of the consequences are just but very sad.

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waza
#6 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:06:12 AM
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i think we should change the way we are handling our education sector. we are having a bunch of guys making key decisions without looking at our education goals and the country's educational needs. i remember during my time we used to take like seven to fourteen subjects. we were never allowed to use calculators, in maths we used log tables. i remember even then we used just to idle the first like two weeks of the term/sem with no/minimal teaching taking place, but still were required to attend the tuition thing!!... now, in age of five subjects, calculators,ipads, Wikipedia, Google, etc why would kids need remedial teaching??
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Abunuasi
#7 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:26:18 AM
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Nice post.
After all, kids need time to play, socialize and be creative. We are creating academic zombies rather than academicians or innovators.
YesuWangu
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:39:47 PM
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From the thread title and the content of the initial post by the original poster, I can assume that he is looking at it from a faith perspective.

If that is the case

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Every human being, created in the image of God, is endowed with a power akin to that of the Creator—individuality, power to think and to do. The men in whom this power is developed are the men who bear responsibilities, who are leaders in enterprise,and who influence character.

It is the work of true education to develop this power, to train the youth to be thinkers, and not mere reflectors of other men’s thought. Instead of confining their study to that which men have said or written, let students be directed to the sources of truth, to the vast fields opened for research in nature and revelation.

Let them contemplate the great facts of duty and destiny,and the mind will expand and strengthen.



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Instead of educated weaklings, institutions of learning may send forth men strong to think and to act, men who are masters and not slaves of circumstances, men who possess breadth of mind, clearness of thought, and the courage of their convictions.

Such an education provides more than mental discipline; it provides more than physical training. It strengthens the character, so that truth and uprightness are not sacrificed to selfish desire or worldly ambition. It fortifies the mind against evil.

Instead of some master passion becoming a power to destroy, every motive and desire are brought into conformity to the great principles of right.

As the perfection of His character is dwelt upon, the mind is renewed, and the soul is re-created in the image of God. What education can be higher than this? What can equal it in value?


There is an interesting perspective on such an education that is found in Job chapter 28. Specifically from verse 12 onwards.

But alas, with the readily available cartoons, naija drama, pirated movies, facebook, youtube and kcpe & kcse rankings, such an education is severely hampered. We are only left with a shell that is too narrow and too low.
youcan'tstopusnow
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:47:30 PM
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Hahaaa! Funny you mention about the word of God. I know of a school in Nai where the students are still being taught tuition, not in their classrooms, but in the nearby Church. This is done so that when they are caught, the students are told to say they are just doing some Church 'projects'. Of course you know the Church will get its 'cut' from this as wanafunzi wanalipa.
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MBILI
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:58:29 PM
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@coolbull

i know a parent taking her standard 1 kid for tuition,teacher said that they are covering syllabus.Tuition for std.1 pupil??,they only play and count in school.Even us ,we are being naive to agree to some of this things.
specky
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 2:37:10 PM
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my son in nursery was to go back for holiday tuition so the teacher asked if i will take him,i told her no,she asked me why.....i told her hata ile mchezo atacheza nyumbani ni masomo pia...
theman192000
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 2:58:28 PM
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Is it true that the 8 pupils who perished in Asumbi girls where attending holiday tuition?Sad Sad Sad
AlphDoti
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 2:59:19 PM
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Nice post. I've always been against tuition for "minors". Why don't they just do with class 7 & 8 and 4th form alone? My rule is:
- kids go to school during school term,
- holiday is for madrasa in the morning and homework and play in the afternoon,
- then visit upcountry to see their grandparents & other relatives.

This way, their time is fully occupied and no much room for "idleness".

youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
...students are still being taught tuition, ... in the nearby Church. ... the students are told to say they are just doing some Church 'projects'.

I thought there's a commandment against liying???
Quote:
(9) “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
Tebes
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:00:33 PM
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[quote=Njung'e]Tuition is nothing but money minting and it's sad to what extent teachers will go to get that extra buck.Some of the consequences are just but very sad.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...6/-/v4xu26/-/index.html[/quote]


Sad story, but why lock the girls inside a dormitory? MMoja akitaka kuhara?
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essyk
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:20:35 PM
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It's absurd to force kids in lower classes.
But again at times we blame teachers too much when we parents are to blame.
Whose fault is it if a kid is slow?
I know a school where only the slow minds are adviced to go for tuition with the parent's support and approval.
Why,ask yourself should 2 kids in same class,same teacher,same class/homework end up performing diff?

If I had a slow kid ataenda tuition! not sit at home playing comp games,movies,eating burgers and growing fat in the ears.

By the way when I was growing up in std 2,my dad employed a kiteacher to be teaching us over the weekends,imagine weekend time for our fav.programmes.!!nkt.
Damn we hated him to date.

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Sad story, but why lock the girls inside a dormitory?


News says door was locked from outside.
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rock
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:55:06 PM
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The teachers want to make extra cash while the parents dont want the headache of looking after the kids during holidays so both are to blame but the parents should refuse.If your child is slow you can legally get him/her a private tutor.
waza
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:08:45 PM
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@essyk, i believe if a kid is slow in class, he probably has another gift like music, football, athletics, comedian etc. all these gifts cannot be discovered if the kid is only subjected to one environment.

parents needs to be more engaged in the learning process of their kids and ensure teachers to their work right. we have cases of best schools in the country finishing their syllabusss before mid year and start revisions to exam time.
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essyk
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:10:55 PM
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@Rock private is more expensive I think.
Parents don't feel comfortable with 'teachers' in their homes'not forgetting there is a maid around.
Pray unless we employ female teachers to do the job.
The teaching will become more 'private'!
unacheza na matunda will be double double.
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essyk
#19 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:17:18 PM
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waza wrote:
@essyk, i believe if a kid is slow in class, he probably has another gift like music, football, athletics, comedian etc. all these gifts cannot be discovered if the kid is only subjected to one environment.

parents needs to be more engaged in the learning process of their kids and ensure teachers to their work right. we have cases of best schools in the country finishing their syllabusss before mid year and start revisions to exam time.


Tell that to a stressed sweaty kenyan parent struggling to force a professional career out of his son or daughter.
Hatujafika hapo where these other talents are tapped properly and made to look attractive.
Even churchill's mother keeps asking him to get a job.She's convinced that comedy is not a career yet anafaidika.
You and I know that passing the national exam is the hallmark of excellence here.

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MBILI
#20 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:27:20 PM
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Ithink it should not be a school policy,like someone says ,its an individual parent who should decide about tuition for their kid.Private tuition should be done in private institutions or at home and for parents whose kids are in need,else if parents allow it in school,teachers will never complete the syllabus in the stipulated time as they have more time during holidays when they can also make more money.
In my days,the subjects were more and we never went for school holiday tuition.but my mom got me one on my last primo year to help me with math,tuitor used to come home.

Alot of parents happy to skive the responsibilities over their kids during hols,hence society behaviours changing from bad to worse!
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