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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Kaka M wrote:
@ Tycho I believe you also go by the name Tokyo in Wazua, and have been campaigning for abortion and atheism, what is your agenda? You just want to water down peoples efforts? @ Essyk, Congrats for your efforts.
@ Specky, I think @ Nabwire's Options 2 & 3 are really good.
@Kaka M, What are your grounds of holding the belief that I am @Tokyo? Rhyme? Perceived agreement between my ideas with those of Tokyo? How can you ask me what my agenda is? Why, you seem to prefer a rubber stamping of your opinions rather than a conversation! Please forgive me if I anger you, and no, I don't campaign for any causes. But come to think of it, what have you really done? Have you encouraged some needy party? Have you helped humanity? You want to preserve @essyk, approve @Nabwire and destroy @Tokyo! javascript:insertsmiley('  %20','/Images/Emoticons/msp_lol.gif') Cool down your temper.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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tycho wrote:@essyk, were you really dealing with drug addicts? How did you know they were addicts? We grow up together.Most were even younger than me.
I used a close contact to get close cz he was a dealer (rip)How does creating a self help group help in fighting drug addiction? You need to understand that you just can't do things randomly and disorganised because your efforts get watered down.There's strength in unity.We needed each other.
My idea of a group was to get them organised,identify the causes and find out the best way of tackling the menace in the society they were in.
Do not forget that these guys knew each other.
I wanted to see them earn an income not just idle around.It was just fire burning in me to do it.Why did you assume that you could not talk the young men into contributing for the balls? Because I had tried to meet them but they were hesistant.They kept ignoring maybe cz I was female and wasn't doing it, so they thought maybe I wanted to hammer gospel into their heads.
They would also take young kid's balls as well and exclude them in the games leaving them to spectate.
So I thought if all they wanted was a basketball then it wouldn't cost much, but on condition tht they agree to meet.And that's how we started,meeting at the basketball court after every game.What was your role in the group? What was the effect of your role? I founded it,steered it,faced all the challenges imaginable,negotiating and pleading on their behalf even before pastors just to allow us to use church facilities and grounds cz they didn't want to associate with youths who just enjoyed facilities but never went to their church.
All blame would fall on me should anything get damaged.
I teamed up with other youth groups,marketed the group's activities making it possible for them to trust us and share with us their cleaning equipment cz we didn't have ours.I used my connections to try open gates.
Talk to MYSA.They are my buddies esp the guy who got burnt in the nakumatt downtown fire.He was very helpful. This narrative you've given, is it the mark that was left in your heart? Is it worth mentioning such marks? If you think it's a narrative then God have mercy on you.
Rip Omosh,Maich,Nico,Felix.
Omosh was was hit and run victim,
Maich was stabbed by thugs while walking home after partying.
Felix 14 yrs only,was felled by bullets cz he belonged to a gang and was undergoing counselling,
Nico (i love u bro) was a victim of drug revenge.He had quit but they didn't take it well.
They were all dear to my heart.
When you lose close people you will never call it a narrative.
You created an issue and built relationships around it. You were making your own movie;you even hired the cast (remember you designing the logo and motto?) That alone has made me lose all respect for you.
I pray that we never meet and am glad that we will never.I am sorry.Rem this,of all the thing we did,logo and motto were the least of them all. We needed them when we were registering and trying to get members committed.It was OUR idea not just mine.
I am being equally brutal to myself; except for these days of 're-orientation' I'd think of myself as a 'social worker'. In fact, my nurture and perhaps nature has been and still is one of giving. I am not a social worker.I do things out of passion or calling.
If that is not there, all you will do is criticise those who do it.
And you are very hostile and somewhat discouraging.  "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@essyk, knowing that someone uses a drug and being with him while he is using the drug doesn't make him an addict.
You gathered people around you, organized them, fought for them, created income opportunities for them, but where is the dialogue about drugs?
Your 'addicts' might have had reasons to doubt you, that is true, but is buying balls for them the best way out? Why didn't you buy a ball for yourself and then join them for practice?
You did things for them (the addicts I mean). Were you supposed to stop the addiction for them also? Or what were they supposed to do? Follow the leader?
I do also have a list of 'comrades' who fell by the way, I can feel you. But apart from the fond memories, what next?
Now what happens after you've lost all respect for me and don't want to meet me? And this is further complicated by the fact that I like you!
A social worker can do things out of passion or calling. In your case which is which, passion or calling? If calling, who called you?
I am not being hostile to you. And I do not want to discourage you from doing good. I am sure you've heard it before, 'The road to hell is paved with good intentions.'
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Rank: User Joined: 8/14/2012 Posts: 28
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I don't think an adult should spend any of their time and resources rescuing another adult from self-inflicated problems. Don't get me wrong, helping a kid acquire education is a noble course and I support that but there is a point in life where no one has any business rescuing anyone.
I believe the way our life turn out is influenced my choices we make along the way, people who have turned out successful made hard choices in life at one point and I am sure most people needing rescue as adults took the easy road alot of times. I got up at 4 am to study when I was in highschool, I didn't have to and it wasn't easy, alot of people took the easy road and slept through out school, I never got to go to the cool parties in college alot of people partied through college. I don't feel bad if I don't help anyone, I don't think anyone should be rewarded for being lazy! I don't feel bad when I spend money on stupid stuff while half the country is starving, I earned it!
So if you're a politician and you want people's vote, go out there and help the addicts, i am not going to risk my life hanging out with these people, I am not going to waste my time and resources pouring into these projects. If the most disadvantaged in the sociaty cares about themselve then why don't they vote right? why don't they help change the policies?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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tycho wrote:@essyk, knowing that someone uses a drug and being with him while he is using the drug doesn't make him an addict. Tycho please.I know an addict when I see one.
I only need ur eyes,neck and arms,lips not behaviour cz those can be deceiving.
Now this make me wanna cry cz I know how painful it is to victims.
I have taken an addict to kenyatta for a lab test cz the neck glands were swollen.Many other symptoms and u can tell the degree of the effects.
I found myself in cells trying to secure their release cz some cop just found them chatting in the open and arrested them for idling and chewing grass. smh.
Some were however were just hopeless drunkards at a young age.You gathered people around you, organized them, fought for them, created income opportunities for them, but where is the dialogue about drugs? Did I not mention about partnering with a team of doctors from a reputable hospital.
I owe it to one Dr,Wasike.He did a great job,organising training,medical camp,counselling and I remember us being issued with certificates after a training.That 14 yr old boy was undergoing counselling by a pro.psychologist there with the parents approval.We were doing a one on one thing not mass lectures on drugs.
Your 'addicts' might have had reasons to doubt you, that is true, but is buying balls for them the best way out? Why didn't you buy a ball for yourself and then join them for practice? Tycho u are a pain now! and please let this be the last I am discussing with you.I mentioned tournaments.I was the only female when we started and these were huge boys playing basketball.Did I have to join in to win their hearts? They knew me as a 'saved person' hence their reluctance.And I don't blame them cz u know how irritating christians can be at times.We don't address the prob at all but want to force JC down people's throats. You did things for them (the addicts I mean). Were you supposed to stop the addiction for them also? Or what were they supposed to do? Follow the leader? Follow me where now? Mine was to bring a sense of well being.
Idleness is the devil's workshop.If they got busy doing something constructive they wouldn't have time to go search for weed or drink.
I wanted them to feel proud of their achievement even though society had ruled them out. I do also have a list of 'comrades' who fell by the way, I can feel you. But apart from the fond memories, what next? Are you serious? Wazua is not a diary u know.
I am saying all this for the poster's sake ajue what challenges one encounters akienda deep into helping people.Now what happens after you've lost all respect for me and don't want to meet me? And this is further complicated by the fact that I like you! That even further complicates matters.
Can u please 'UNLIKE' me?A social worker can do things out of passion or calling. In your case which is which, passion or calling? If calling, who called you? SMH!
It was passion.eti who called me.Kwani u think am samuel?I am not being hostile to you. And I do not want to discourage you from doing good. I am sure you've heard it before, 'The road to hell is paved with good intentions.'
so am on my way to hell? just let me be. I want the poster to do what she feels like doing cz its fulfilling to help people. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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@tycho, Let those who want to stretch a helping hand be.
You got your hands, keep them unto yourself.
But those of others,it's a free world. Passion ,calling or whatever will fly their kites,let them be.
If it's conversation you want, start a thread for your conversation and the wazua spirit will live on.
@Rolldrunk, You won't risk your life, you know it and nobody is asking you to.
If you won't do something,why not let those who feel like doing try?
@specky and @essyk,goodness be upon you.
As Wangari Maathai said, let us all be that little bird,working hard to make a POSITIVE difference.
To the naysayers,come out of your dark hearts and drool on that keyboard.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/14/2012 Posts: 28
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mkeiyd wrote:@tycho, Let those who want to stretch a helping hand be.
You got your hands, keep them unto yourself.
But those of others,it's a free world. Passion ,calling or whatever will fly their kites,let them be.
If it's conversation you want, start a thread for your conversation and the wazua spirit will live on.
@Rolldrunk, You won't risk your life, you know it and nobody is asking you to.
If you won't do something,why not let those who feel like doing try?
@specky and @essyk,goodness be upon you.
As Wangari Maathai said, let us all be that little bird,working hard to make a POSITIVE difference.
To the naysayers,come out of your dark hearts and drool on that keyboard. I think, and analysis supports it, the best way to effect change in a sociaty is to change the policies, mkeiyd, when you go out there to help can you also teach those who need help that it is very important that they start caring bout their interest more than anyone's interest, the country is poor because more than 51% of the population is either ignorant,lazy or dumb and that 51% is represented here in wazua!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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essyk wrote:tycho wrote:@essyk, knowing that someone uses a drug and being with him while he is using the drug doesn't make him an addict. Tycho please.I know an addict when I see one.
I only need ur eyes,neck and arms,lips not behaviour cz those can be deceiving.
Now this make me wanna cry cz I know how painful it is to victims.
I have taken an addict to kenyatta for a lab test cz the neck glands were swollen.Many other symptoms and u can tell the degree of the effects.
I found myself in cells trying to secure their release cz some cop just found them chatting in the open and arrested them for idling and chewing grass. smh.
Some were however were just hopeless drunkards at a young age.You gathered people around you, organized them, fought for them, created income opportunities for them, but where is the dialogue about drugs? Did I not mention about partnering with a team of doctors from a reputable hospital.
I owe it to one Dr,Wasike.He did a great job,organising training,medical camp,counselling and I remember us being issued with certificates after a training.That 14 yr old boy was undergoing counselling by a pro.psychologist there with the parents approval.We were doing a one on one thing not mass lectures on drugs.
Your 'addicts' might have had reasons to doubt you, that is true, but is buying balls for them the best way out? Why didn't you buy a ball for yourself and then join them for practice? Tycho u are a pain now! and please let this be the last I am discussing with you.I mentioned tournaments.I was the only female when we started and these were huge boys playing basketball.Did I have to join in to win their hearts? They knew me as a 'saved person' hence their reluctance.And I don't blame them cz u know how irritating christians can be at times.We don't address the prob at all but want to force JC down people's throats. You did things for them (the addicts I mean). Were you supposed to stop the addiction for them also? Or what were they supposed to do? Follow the leader? Follow me where now? Mine was to bring a sense of well being.
Idleness is the devil's workshop.If they got busy doing something constructive they wouldn't have time to go search for weed or drink.
I wanted them to feel proud of their achievement even though society had ruled them out. I do also have a list of 'comrades' who fell by the way, I can feel you. But apart from the fond memories, what next? Are you serious? Wazua is not a diary u know.
I am saying all this for the poster's sake ajue what challenges one encounters akienda deep into helping people.Now what happens after you've lost all respect for me and don't want to meet me? And this is further complicated by the fact that I like you! That even further complicates matters.
Can u please 'UNLIKE' me?A social worker can do things out of passion or calling. In your case which is which, passion or calling? If calling, who called you? SMH!
It was passion.eti who called me.Kwani u think am samuel?I am not being hostile to you. And I do not want to discourage you from doing good. I am sure you've heard it before, 'The road to hell is paved with good intentions.'
so am on my way to hell? just let me be. I want the poster to do what she feels like doing cz its fulfilling to help people.
Yes this whole matter is about personal fulfillment isn't it? It happens that I am incapable of unliking you though. Someone has just opined that I should seek conversation in another thread. But I guess I should do the honorable thing and shut up instead.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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You know why I wouldnt go the thread's way? cz am a story teller and it will end up being the longest boring thread ever on wazua. Hata nitakuwa usered. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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I remember once, going to a children's home and volunteering my services.. They asked me to make balls from cotton wool. Just so you know, you've challenged me and I might be going back to offer services. Be blessed.
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