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Kenya is the Largest Importer of Used Cars from Japan
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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That is some real statistic,although its just the largest in Africa and number 4 in the world as per a story by Business Daily. Apparently we import more than SA,clearly Kenya with all its problems still has some impressive middle class and some real financial muscle. And this is despite the YOM restriction that we have and TZ/UG don't and the duty that effectively doubles the price. Soon the world will need to stand up and appreciate that this democratic bad boy can handle its own sh*t. Thank you US and EU,but we will not be requiring your lectures. I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Phew! One more thing to show to them pessimists. The only reason why some people are still alive is coz its illegal to shoot them!! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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That tells you how far we would be if we were our own car manufacturers..... we could be the next big thing among the emerging economies.
Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Correct @ Simonkabz This is the kind of stat we should be giving to them haters when they tell us about our slums,poverty et al. It doesn't change anything but atleast it balances the picture and creates more interest for people looking to invest real money in new markets. I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/25/2008 Posts: 36
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@Obi... what are the figures? Haven't seen the BD hardcopy but the online story doesn't quote any figures to justify the story.
@all,i dont see any reason to thump our chests. We are just a dumping ground....Yes,an a greedy one at that. While other countries (notably Russia) upped the year of manufacture on used imported cars,and Britain and US have a cash-fo-clankers scheme,we take pride in driving waste!
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/3/2006 Posts: 553
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@ Obi,well put @ Justrant,try not to miss the point being put across by Obi.. The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie. The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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@Just
But at least we can afford more 'waste' than majority of our peers........ which makes a big difference. Isnt a man eating at a dumpsite better than one dying of hunger in the wilderness?
What we should look at now is to ban cars that are more than 15years in the country... and probably look at a possibility of exporting them to ug,tz,rw,buj etc.... Come to think of it... creates business,huh?
Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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@Justrant So in your opinion,at which point are we supposed to thump our chests,everybody else in the world is always busy thumping their chests and wagging their fingers at us. The 'cash for clunkers scheme' has bee necessitated by the near collapse of the car industries in the EU and US so its more of a forced solution,which so happens to be good. Used cars are sold the world over,infact ask any briton or American what his first car was and you will get your answer. @ wendz its not eating in a dumpsite,as I said before,most countries in the world do not even have restrictions on YOM,I know TZ and UG allow older cars. Philippines allows upto 10 years. I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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I quite agree with justrant...we should not be happy about being the largest importer of the second hand vehicles that have failed the emissions tests in Japan....these vehicles are just but dumped here since there is no strict regulations that govern the environmental polution...... we need to appreciate one thing though...that the middle class is still having cash that could be tapped by investors..... NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/8/2008 Posts: 359
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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The taxman must be delighted with this.On the other hand,the Japs should accord Kenya most prefered trading status and the give special concessions on car exports to Kenya.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/9/2008 Posts: 2,824
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@obi and just.........you are both right!!! but it is more worth to consider @just point more that @obis which is just thumping up on a statistic that should not be there in the first place. what is coming out,even from @wendz is that we shouldnt be a junkyard for that is what we are at the moment...........or you will also call being number one importer of mitumba clothes a pleasing statistic also,after running down your textiles industries???? @obi again......let some stats never make you smile,for they point to the degree of you rotttenness.....they should instead stimulate your thinking in the right direction!!! If you have money that you expect to start using in five years,it now belongs in stocks. When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 319
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these cars are not bad,but the parts we then subsequently use make it difficult for them to pass emissions tests etc...kama mtu hata hupitisha service mileage,kweli hiyo ni middle class iko down manze...ni vile tu status ndio inatupeleke huko.
I see it as a large waste of foreign exchange. If we really want to thump our chests,let's spend this money in R&D of our own 'Nyayo Pioneer'....
I drive one of those 'mitumba' though,so not bad,but we cud do better. It shouldn't go to our heads. How many could afford a new car?
Can you all check what happened when the computers for schools project started? Far too many junk computers were brought here - with good intention,but how many are in use today? How prepared is kenya to handle the disposal of such waste?
It's good and bad.
Baraka za Mungu ni za Ajabu
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/5/2007 Posts: 91
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@Obi u r correct...most Europeans from Central Europe to the Caucasus drive used Opel...not 8 yrs but over 15 yrs old...but live in wonderful houses. Geez...Kenya is a very large economy...others just crunk up their currencies...but we need to work on rural housing...
Playing the stock market without insider info...is like buying a cow in the moonlight.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/18/2007 Posts: 217
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Wow ''Kenyans with their pride of importing used cars'. If we are such a strong economy why aren't we importing new cars instead of bringing in old 'Bangers' that polluting our envinroment.
Reason why S.A,Chile and the likes fair lower is that their economies has improved and can afford to buy new cars.
Or put it another way how many new cars are sold in Kenya in any given month? that would be a good indicator of a good economy.
wote
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Im no economist,bt just whats wrong with owning a serviceable,cheap,economical mobile coffin? This thng can last another 10years or more,I see no problem thumping ma black chest. If u buy a brand new minibus,n i get myself a used hiace,5years later the two will look 5yrs old,both bodywise n mechanical transmission. Those cars r only slightly used n damn cheap. Game yetu iko juu tu sana! The only reason why some people are still alive is coz its illegal to shoot them!! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/30/2008 Posts: 35
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To the chest thumpers,consider this;-
1. Kenyans like Japs drive on the left side of the road. Folks in most other countries dive on the right so the have no use for Japanese cars which in any case are banned. Such contries in Africa include Egypt,Sudan and Nigeria who would easily be importing more Japanese cars than Kenyans if they had any use for them.
2. I have workedin west africa and guys there import their cars from Europe which is nearer and cheaper than Japan.They also prefer Mercs,BMWs,Opels,Skodas and VWs to Toyotas and Nissans.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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simon,tell 'em......TZ n UG do not have any age restrictions yet we still uo there in numbers imported......I am still thumbing my chest!!!!!! The chief value of money lies in the fact that one lives in a world in which it is overestimated. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/18/2007 Posts: 217
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And just how many times have you taken your mobile coffin for an anti-pollution fix?or does the envinroment where you live not matter to you.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with owning a second hand car,but should everyone in the country own a second car and look at it as a sense of pride or achievement?
if any of guy care take a walk from NSSF Building to town passed Serena Hotel,just spare a second and look at the trees that line that street. The damage that has been made to the environment is visable from those trees.
wote
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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The numbers are there for all,its up to you to interpret them as you wish. I only said the numbers are a pointer to a good robust middleclass,which is very true. On average,someone will pay Sh. 600,000 or thereabouts for a good quality used toyota,which if you were in EU or UK would be enough to deposit on a brand new BMW 3/5 Series or Merc E class whose subsequent monthly payments would be minuscule and which you would be able to replace every 2 years with a newer version with improvements which you can't even feel when driving or notice but which will basically keep you on monthly repayments for the rest of your life. The used car market has provided many jobs to many kenyans as dealers and even the mechanics. But the reason I posted this was out of surprise and abit of pride in the knowledge that we are relevant,please allow me to enjoy that. I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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