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Ericsson
#21 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:27:24 PM
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A great company but in the wrong country.
The funds needed to fund its ambitious expansion are hard to come by in a developing country like Kenya
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:02:31 PM
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One should look at this company as a very long term investment. As someone put it, this should be a 20 - 30 year plan.

I am surprised that pension schemes are not going for it.
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Ericsson
#23 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:09:30 PM
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Pension schemes go for companies which give good results and good dividends faster or growing faster e.g KCB,Barclays,EABL
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Kausha
#24 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:00:07 PM
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Pension schemes exist to generate competitive returns for members during their working life. In as much as Kengen looks like it will make money eventually, the funding of their perpetual investment program disillusions pension schemes. Rather stick with firms that can generate decent tangible returns year on year rather than one which will provide a huge tangible return from year N out there in the future. Not all members will retire after year N. There are some retiring next year and in 5 years time. Not sure how much Kengen will have lost or made by then, but I am certain KCB is likely to have consistently made a decent return up until then. Kengen need to fix their financing and start operating like a business answerable to a diverse set of players and NOT like a project management company answerable to Vision 2030 and GK.
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#25 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:29:16 PM
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"Power producer (KenGen) is shopping for financial consultants to advise on the modalities of raising a massive Sh420 billion ($5 billion) in a fresh financing programme.

The new funding proposal comes barely three years after the utility firm raised Sh25 billion through a public infrastructure bond to fund the expansion of its electricity generating installations....
The consultants will be expected to advise on the best option of executing the proposed financing plan in line with the company’s corporate leverage ratio of 70 per cent debt and 30 per cent equity.

The tender, which has attracted seven consortia of both local and international bidders, will be awarded next month..."
http://www.standardmedia...-fresh-capital-injection
murchr
#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:12:36 PM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
murchr wrote:
I may be wrong but i thought the money used for projects is gotten from public infrastructure bonds??


A.K.A. LOANS


Which they said they are being offered at 1%
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the deal
#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:37:07 PM
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As it stands Hydrology has more bearing on how Kengen performs than capacity...look at the portfolio mix.
Kausha
#28 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:41:50 PM
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So who will consume all the power? We are yet to feed ourselves and medicate and treat ourselves to a decent standard. The economy is growing at 3- 5 % at best and is unlikely to move beyond that over the next 3 years, so what is all this capacity for?
murchr
#29 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:44:33 PM
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Kausha wrote:
So who will consume all the power? We are yet to feed ourselves and medicate and treat ourselves to a decent standard. The economy is growing at 3- 5 % at best and is unlikely to move beyond that over the next 3 years, so what is all this capacity for?


Kausha do u believe that we have enough power as a country? Are you in Kenya, ever experienced power rationings?? Why do you think that power is expensive?

On selling..a good customer is Egypt I hope they are looking into that.
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Kausha
#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 7:39:28 PM
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@murchr our deficit is 350MW at the moment. Which 1260MW peak demand against 1290MW installed capacity and the 30% reserve we need to build up. All the IPP's have 10-15 years irrevocable power purchase agreements. They are no going away soon. Demand is growing at 8%. Why produce all this power for who? Vision/ Mirage 2030 perhaps?

Power rationing are from the decrepit transmission lines and commercial theft. KPLC is fixing that by replacing some lines and build substations to distribute the consumer load across many substations so that one line shutting down doesn't shut everyone. At the moment Mombasa is producing excess power which can't be evacuated owing to an old transmission line from Mombasa to nairobi.

Power is expensive because of the sources and not because it is scarce. Geothermal is equally expensive in our basket of energy falling just below thermal. Hydro is the cheapest followed by wind and baggase. IPP's have 10,15,20 year PPA's so their input in the base load will always be there and together with geothermal will keep prices up. Download KPLC annual report and check the rates.

Egypt don't need our power, they have natural gas which they use and the rest they supply Israel, lebanon na hao wengine.
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