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alma
#41 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 6:33:13 PM
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liar liar....lol please stop while ur ahead.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
murchr
#42 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 6:38:04 PM
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alma wrote:
liar liar....lol please stop while ur ahead.


smile My challenge is u go to I&M bank and ask for their services. Truth be told I use my US account to withdraw from paypal then wire never thought of changing
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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essyk
#43 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 7:02:59 PM
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murchr wrote:
alma wrote:
liar liar....lol please stop while ur ahead.


smile My challenge is u go to I&M bank and ask for their services. Truth be told I use my US account to withdraw from paypal then wire never thought of changing



There u go!
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
alma
#44 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 7:10:16 PM
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murchr wrote:
alma wrote:
liar liar....lol please stop while ur ahead.


smile My challenge is u go to I&M bank and ask for their services. Truth be told I use my US account to withdraw from paypal then wire never thought of changing


Please stop before your nose falls off.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
murchr
#45 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 7:59:51 PM
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Haiya ni nini alma...i have an account with paypal and i check off to my acc in the US which i opened when i was in sch. Now normally when i sell staff on ebay the money goes to paypal then i transfer it to my acct from which i can wire to my kenyan account. When i came back to ke...i was advised that I&M bank usually opens international accounts i went there and they confirmed it...when i asked them if i can withdraw paypal cash they said yes but i dint bother to change my paypal details since i had an arrangement with my bank earlier. (This is too much info) So try I&M they confirmed that they offer the service you could get help.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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essyk
#46 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 8:34:17 PM
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murchr wrote:
when i sell staff on ebay the money goes to paypal then i transfer it to my acct from which i can wire to my kenyan account. When i came back to ke...i was advised that I&M bank usually opens international accounts i went there and they confirmed it...when i asked them if i can withdraw paypal cash they said yes but i dint bother to change my paypal details since i had an arrangement with my bank earlier. (This is too much info) So try I&M they confirmed that they offer the service you could get help.


Lemmie get this clear.
You are in US,You withdraw from paypal into your US account.You then wire that into the kenyan account. (lets say I&M.)
This happens because Paypal has no biz with your kenyan account.
It's strictly PP and US acc.

Fastfoward Kenya.
You approach I&M and ask if you can withdraw from paypal on this end?
Why would you do that if you are well aware that money can only move from PP into a US account?

If that is were the case,wouldn't it have been easier to withdraw from PP direct into the kenyan account while in US thereby skipping the US account and wiring altogether?


Why bother about changing PP details for a local bank's sake,which has no biz with PP.

could be wrong but I dont get you.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
murchr
#47 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 8:42:07 PM
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essyk wrote:
murchr wrote:
when i sell staff on ebay the money goes to paypal then i transfer it to my acct from which i can wire to my kenyan account. When i came back to ke...i was advised that I&M bank usually opens international accounts i went there and they confirmed it...when i asked them if i can withdraw paypal cash they said yes but i dint bother to change my paypal details since i had an arrangement with my bank earlier. (This is too much info) So try I&M they confirmed that they offer the service you could get help.


Lemmie get this clear.
You are in US,You withdraw from paypal into your US account.You then wire that into the kenyan account. (lets say I&M.)
This happens because Paypal has no biz with your kenyan account.
It's strictly PP and US acc.

Fastfoward Kenya.
You approach I&M and ask if you can withdraw from paypal on this end? Why would you do that if you are well aware that money can only move from PP into a US account? and not a Kenyan one?
If that is were the case,wouldn't it have been easier to withdraw from PP direct into the kenyan account while in US thereby skipping the US account and wiring altogether?

Why bother about changing PP details for a local bank's sake, which has no biz with PP.
You leave it as it is do it the way you did.
PP>US acct>>Wire into Kenyan acc.



When i registered with paypal i was in US but i had to move and was thinking since I&M claims to have an international acc (as in you can use it anywhere in the world) maybe they would also get my paypal cash in the acc...but then i figured iakuwa kazi mingi changing details since i still have access to my account there. But they said they offer the service and anyway if i can use my ac anywhere why not receive paypal?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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essyk
#48 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 8:59:09 PM
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murchr wrote:

When i registered with paypal i was in US but i had to move and was thinking since I&M claims to have an international acc (as in you can use it anywhere in the world) maybe they would also get my paypal cash in the acc...but then i figured iakuwa kazi mingi changing details since i still have access to my account there. But they said they offer the service and anyway if i can use my ac anywhere why not receive paypal?


When I opened a PP account here,I thought I needed my bank's help to operate it.I approached my local bank and was shocked to find out they knew nothing about PP!
They misled me soo much and made me fill forms for online banking instead.
Some crazy manager was talking about unlocking my card for online banking and I thought something was a miss.
I thought being an International bank they would help move cash from paypal into my account but alas,that is not what PP says.

I do not need my local bank to do ANYTHING! cz they have no biz with PP.All I needed was the card to register.Transaction and withdrawal is my headache.
So when you keep mentioning a bank I just dont get it cz all that matters is the Card.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
murchr
#49 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 9:09:04 PM
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essyk wrote:
murchr wrote:

When i registered with paypal i was in US but i had to move and was thinking since I&M claims to have an international acc (as in you can use it anywhere in the world) maybe they would also get my paypal cash in the acc...but then i figured iakuwa kazi mingi changing details since i still have access to my account there. But they said they offer the service and anyway if i can use my ac anywhere why not receive paypal?


When I opened a PP account here,I thought I needed my bank's help to operate it.I approached my local bank and was shocked to find out they knew nothing about PP!
They misled me soo much and made me feel forms for online banking instead.Some crazy manager was telling me about unlocking my card for online banking and I thought something was a miss.
I had to go back understand PP well before explaining to bank staff what PAYPAL was all about.
I do not need my bank to do ANYTHING! at all.They have no biz with PP at all and all I needed was my Card for registering.That is it.

So when you keep mentioning a bank I just dont get it cz all that matters is the Card.The transaction bit is non of their biz.




In the US...to curb money laundering one has to pitisha money on a bank account. Either saving or checking. This bank will give u a visa or mastercard. So once your paid in paypal...to get that money out u can choose to transfer it to your account. I really dont understand why paypal doesnt accept kenyan visa of mastercard...
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tassia
#50 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 9:15:52 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Thanks Alma, Essyk and Murchur for the good discussion. Murchur, I had no idea about this I&M facility. Heading there tomorrow morning to get the details. I will thank you a million if it is true.

From my understanding and to try to bring more clarity on this issue......Nation are saying the truth but are doing a lot of injustice for not bringing in more clarity.

1. When Nation says that you can withdraw from paypal to your Hela card, I guess this only applies to Kenyans living in those countries where it is possible to withdraw money to a card (as per paypal terms). Of course Kenya is excluded here because in any case, the service is targeted to People living outside Kenya. But the Nation is not telling us that it is still not possible to do this if you are in any other country in the world where paypal does not allow you to do this. Is Nation assuming that all Kenyans in the diaspora live only in countries where one is allowed to withdraw to their cards by paypal?

2. For Kenyans living in Kenya and interested in e-commerce, the only way you can withdraw from your paypal is to a USA bank account. Searching from the internet, there are so many agents who promise to help people to open a USA bank account even if you are not a US resident. But you never know if you will deal with the right people. If I&M bank can help one to do that, then bingo, we have a Kenya solution to this headache.
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