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Another discovery in E.Africa: huge ground water resource.
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Coolio
#11 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 12:32:15 PM
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The problem with Turkanas is that they rely on relief food only ask us who have been there.
Nadondosha meli kubwa seuze ngalawa!
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essyk
#12 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 12:43:52 PM
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Coolio wrote:
The problem with Turkanas is that they rely on relief food only ask us who have been there.

Yep cz u refused to give them a fishing rod.
The real fishermen have nowhere to take their fish other than consume domestically.
The herders hold on to dear cattle cz they are the lifeline of the community till drought beckons and they all die.
What other economic activities are there in Turkana, cz nomadic life can never bring progress and we all know why.
Wangework na that underground water which has been there since time immemorial to make that place tao.





"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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josiah33
#13 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 4:36:24 PM
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Now that Kiambu is quickly turning into a concrete jungle, those other 'green' and 'cool' places in Kenya are becoming unviable for farming since the land portions are decreasing as sons inherit land which their fathers inherited from their grandfathers why doesn't the Government dig up that water in Turkana and open up more land for agriculture?
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harrydre
#14 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 5:39:35 PM
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josiah33 wrote:
Now that Kiambu is quickly turning into a concrete jungle, those other 'green' and 'cool' places in Kenya are becoming unviable for farming since the land portions are decreasing as sons inherit land which their fathers inherited from their grandfathers why doesn't the Government dig up that water in Turkana and open up more land for agriculture?


who is goverment?
i.am.back!!!!
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King G
#15 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 5:43:20 PM
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harrydre wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
why doesn't the Government dig up that water in Turkana and open up more land for agriculture?


who is goverment?


PM - the supervisor of all ministries and ministers
Thieves
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eco
#16 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 5:54:00 PM
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josiah33 wrote:
Now that Kiambu is quickly turning into a concrete jungle, those other 'green' and 'cool' places in Kenya are becoming unviable for farming since the land portions are decreasing as sons inherit land which their fathers inherited from their grandfathers why doesn't the Government dig up that water in Turkana and open up more land for agriculture?


It may not be possible to dictate the physical nature (climate and soils) for some crops. It is unfortunate we are continously sealing the fertile Nitisols of Kiambu with Tatus et al. where we can grow the best Coffee, unlike building satelite towns like Konza in sub-humid and semi-arid zones where coffee and tea cannot grow. It is a policy matter, confused by the myopic land use planning that we inherited from the British.
Ideally all best agricultural areas should be reserved for farming and satelite cities developed in the buffer zones. If you cannot farm your own, you lease to whowever can and you move to town.
Ask me why Agriculturals will continue to be hot! First, the real esate, second and more important, the crops the grow on it.
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murchr
#17 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 7:07:57 PM
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eco wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
Now that Kiambu is quickly turning into a concrete jungle, those other 'green' and 'cool' places in Kenya are becoming unviable for farming since the land portions are decreasing as sons inherit land which their fathers inherited from their grandfathers why doesn't the Government dig up that water in Turkana and open up more land for agriculture?


It may not be possible to dictate the physical nature (climate and soils) for some crops. It is unfortunate we are continously sealing the fertile Nitisols of Kiambu with Tatus et al. where we can grow the best Coffee, unlike building satelite towns like Konza in sub-humid and semi-arid zones where coffee and tea cannot grow. It is a policy matter, confused by the myopic land use planning that we inherited from the British.
Ideally all best agricultural areas should be reserved for farming and satelite cities developed in the buffer zones. If you cannot farm your own, you lease to whowever can and you move to town.
Ask me why Agriculturals will continue to be hot! First, the real esate, second and more important, the crops the grow on it.


Ditto
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madammary
#18 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 8:38:40 PM
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murchr wrote:
eco wrote:
josiah33 wrote:
Now that Kiambu is quickly turning into a concrete jungle, those other 'green' and 'cool' places in Kenya are becoming unviable for farming since the land portions are decreasing as sons inherit land which their fathers inherited from their grandfathers why doesn't the Government dig up that water in Turkana and open up more land for agriculture?


It may not be possible to dictate the physical nature (climate and soils) for some crops. It is unfortunate we are continously sealing the fertile Nitisols of Kiambu with Tatus et al. where we can grow the best Coffee, unlike building satelite towns like Konza in sub-humid and semi-arid zones where coffee and tea cannot grow. It is a policy matter, confused by the myopic land use planning that we inherited from the British.
Ideally all best agricultural areas should be reserved for farming and satelite cities developed in the buffer zones. If you cannot farm your own, you lease to whowever can and you move to town.
Ask me why Agriculturals will continue to be hot! First, the real esate, second and more important, the crops the grow on it.


Ditto

True they didn't plan right and now those acreages suitable for coffee farming are diminishing and we are not going to get them back. Now the next best thing is try and make something out of the available land in arid areas by reclaiming them. At least we can stop unnecessary maize imports by making Turkana and other such areas agriculturally productive.
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otienosmall
#19 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:02:30 AM
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…oooh! tunaomba serkal!...oooh! we are marginalised! ….ooh! blablabla…. This song is weird and goes to show how stupid a people can get. I go to a certain village and marvel at the access of plenty fresh piped water. How it came about; community starts a project contribute to a kitty, buy pipes, dig many kilometres of furrow for the pipes and there they go. Same with electricity; starts a village project, takes as more as 10 years to achieve but finally is done.

So what prevents that village from North Eastern, Ukambani and other places from doing a similar thing? If the Eastern fellows probably sell ten cows or a few camels per homestead and pool to a kitty, they can sink themselves a community borehole…that’s no rocket science! Otherwise let’s keep ombaring serkal because we are merginalized
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Jamani
#20 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:47:06 AM
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otienosmall wrote:
…oooh! tunaomba serkal!...oooh! we are marginalised! ….ooh! blablabla…. This song is weird and goes to show how stupid a people can get. I go to a certain village and marvel at the access of plenty fresh piped water. How it came about; community starts a project contribute to a kitty, buy pipes, dig many kilometres of furrow for the pipes and there they go. Same with electricity; starts a village project, takes as more as 10 years to achieve but finally is done.

So what prevents that village from North Eastern, Ukambani and other places from doing a similar thing? If the Eastern fellows probably sell ten cows or a few camels per homestead and pool to a kitty, they can sink themselves a community borehole…that’s no rocket science! Otherwise let’s keep ombaring serkal because we are merginalized


Its all in the head.... poverty is in the head.
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