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jimmy1		#1 Posted : Friday, August 03, 2012 1:05:10 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 2/11/2011 Posts: 240 Location: jamuhuri ya kenya		Since the beginning of july 2012 KRA has not been printing logbooks, the ridiculous reason being that they don't have papers to print the logbooks. The lack of logbooks has really inconvenienced people in the motor vehicle sales business because very few customers will buy a vehicle without a logbook. Who has a clue on when the papers/books for printing logbooks will be available?
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chiaroscuro		#2 Posted : Friday, August 03, 2012 2:13:12 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi		Truly ridiculous and unacceptable! The registrar should fired and banned from ever holding any office again - public or private! How can there be a shortage of paper to print a one-page document that costs Sh10,000 on average? Surely it isn't a lack of money! Therefore it is due to poor planning, otherwise known as INCOMPETENCE!
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premio		#3 Posted : Friday, August 03, 2012 8:06:01 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/31/2009 Posts: 226		And we think we will compete with Rwanda where things are happening so fast. 80% of most cars purchases are financed and no financier will go ahead without copy of logbook its very bad got a car that has a client but i guess her patience has run out
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sizzla		#4 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 8:00:52 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 6/10/2006 Posts: 201 Location: Nairobi		First off, the Registrar IS NOT responsible for supply of logbooks. That is purely a function of the KRA procurement department. The issue at hand is that there was supposed to be a new supplier in the new financial year (July) so the previous contract was terminated in June 2012. However the supplier started making excuses saying they were not ready hence KRA had no option but to go back to the previous printer (Madras) who of course doubled the cost hence the current stalemate. It purely a logistical obstacle and with the stringent government procurement process it is bound to take a while longer....
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Iganamagana		#5 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 8:20:51 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/27/2009 Posts: 1,437		sizzla wrote: First off, the Registrar IS NOT responsible for supply of logbooks. That is purely a function of the KRA procurement department. The issue at hand is that there was supposed to be a new supplier in the new financial year (July) so the previous contract was terminated in June 2012. However the supplier started making excuses saying they were not ready hence KRA had no option but to go back to the previous printer (Madras) who of course doubled the cost hence the current stalemate. It purely a logistical obstacle and with the stringent government procurement process it is bound to take a while longer.... Why go back to Madras who are India based? It is like exporting jobs that we really need around here. This job can be done by local security printers like Kalzmart and Systemedia. I think even the Government Press can do it but you need to wake them up from their sleep given the fact that they are behind the constant shortage of Driving Licenses at KRA. I do not want to mention De La Rue rest someone suggests that I be banned from ever posting here.
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nakujua		#6 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 10:02:21 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya		how mediocre can we get, what's the complexity in printing a single page.
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chiaroscuro		#7 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 12:17:52 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi		sizzla wrote: First off, the Registrar IS NOT responsible for supply of logbooks. That is purely a function of the KRA procurement department. The issue at hand is that there was supposed to be a new supplier in the new financial year (July) so the previous contract was terminated in June 2012. However the supplier started making excuses saying they were not ready hence KRA had no option but to go back to the previous printer (Madras) who of course doubled the cost hence the current stalemate. It purely a logistical obstacle and with the stringent government procurement process it is bound to take a while longer.... This is escapism! Reminds me of the days when Moi used to lay the blame for government ineffectiveness on "watumishi wa serikali" Obviously, the ultimate responsibility lies with the Registrar. He should have coordinated with the procurement dept to ensure that there is no delay. Furthermore, I am certain the the Registrar, as the end-user of the books, must have been involved in the procurement process - especially the technical evaluation of the bidders. Thus that story about an incompetent supplier winning the tender falls squarely on the Registrar's desk! He can't run away from that responsibility!
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chiaroscuro		#8 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 12:25:45 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi		nakujua wrote: how mediocre can we get, what's the complexity in printing a single page. Come to think of it; that log book is a useless meaningless piece of paper - just like a title deed. Having one does not prove that you own anything! That is why when we buy/sell cars and lands, we first conduct a search of records at the respective registries... The registrar should simply do away with "security printed" log books because the offer no security whatsoever! If I were him, I'd simply print the car details on ordinary paper with a clear disclaimer that the details MUST be confirmed at the registry before transfer of the vehicle.
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sizzla		#9 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 1:13:20 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 6/10/2006 Posts: 201 Location: Nairobi		@chiaroscuro, FYI the Registrar is not employed by KRA hence cannot liaise with procurement. He may be involved in technical evaluations et al but that's as far as his influence can go...the rest is in the docket in Njiraini and his commissioners. On the point about the piece of paper i have to admit you are absolutely right, just a waste of taxpayers' money.
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chiaroscuro		#10 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 1:43:11 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/2/2012 Posts: 1,134 Location: Nairobi		sizzla wrote: @chiaroscuro, FYI the Registrar is not employed by KRA hence cannot liaise with procurement. He may be involved in technical evaluations et al but that's as far as his influence can go...the rest is in the docket in Njiraini and his commissioners. On the point about the piece of paper i have to admit you are absolutely right, just a waste of taxpayers' money. This RINK appears to disagree with you: http://www.kra.go.ke/ind...ad-transport-department It says that there is a Commissioner for Road Transport under whose docket falls registration of motor vehicles. Actually; now I wish to change my demand: it is Mr. Francis Meja, Commissioner for Road Transport who should be shown the door for incompetence!
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