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Inflation rate for the month of July
Ericsson
#1 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 5:20:58 PM
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has the KNBS released inflation rates for the month of July.
They were to be released today afternoon
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Impunity
#2 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 5:30:33 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
has the KNBS released inflation rates for the month of July.
They were to be released today afternoon


With T-bills looking up, the inflation rate for July could only expected to face a certain direction.
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#3 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 5:33:19 PM
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Downwards
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kyt
#4 Posted : Monday, July 30, 2012 6:08:08 PM
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has downward trend nothing less than 1.2% down
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:20:37 PM
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Liv
#6 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:35:31 PM
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Good news..... interest rates should now follow this trend next month. MPC rate should come down to 15% from August. At this rate the economy will be booming by Dec 2012.
hisah
#7 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:18:25 PM
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There's something that is not adding up with inflation and lending rates by CBK... If you look at the tbill rate behaviour it says otherwise about inflation nosediving...

I'm finding CBK and treasury moves very confusing and this needs to be resolved asap to jumpstart the econ. Expensive lending rates, expensive tbills, falling inflation rates... WTH... Someone is lying.

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:33:58 PM
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hisah wrote:
There's something that is not adding up with inflation and lending rates by CBK... If you look at the tbill rate behaviour it says otherwise about inflation nosediving...


What do you mean?
mwekez@ji
#9 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:41:19 PM
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I share the sentiments with Rich on July inflation. Here is what he has said "The Inflation Rate cratered to 7.74% from 10.05% Last Time. I was an Outlier and had expected 8%. In Part, the Steep Drop is due to the High Base Effect of the Comparison from a Year Ago. Clearly Fuel bottomed out during this Reporting Period as well. The MPC are to be commended for getting ahead of the Curve with their 150 Basis Points Rate Cut. I think they have to cement that Advantage with a Further Cut of no less than 200 Basis Points and signal that they are ready to do more. The Shilling is exhibiting far less Beta than in 2011 and The Slow Down [The Economy has been strangled with the High Interest Rate Structure] is in danger of gaining traction and Velocity.We remain correlated to the Weather and Food Prices which requires a more activist Monetary Policy. If You are in the Money Markets or the bond Market, this Data is a Big Signal to extend Duration.

maka
#10 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:34:20 PM
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Am wth bwana hisah on this something is indeed not adding up...why is the govt borrowing so expensively?
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:24:09 PM
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hisah wrote:
There's something that is not adding up with inflation and lending rates by CBK... If you look at the tbill rate behaviour it says otherwise about inflation nosediving...

I'm finding CBK and treasury moves very confusing and this needs to be resolved asap to jumpstart the econ. Expensive lending rates, expensive tbills, falling inflation rates... WTH... Someone is lying.



hehehe, @hisah. It's total confusion. Remember they've now upped the cbk overdraft to 19bln as at last week and that's priced at 16.50%. So why does gava luv being a price taker... borrowing from lender-of-last-resort (monetizing). Tbill rate behavior was following repo, but now with repo down the Tbill is in limbo. I think CBK and Treasury are on two completely different wavelengths. As for lending rates remain high... well that's a cartel you can't dictate to.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:25:23 PM
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T bill/bonds rates are being put on watch

Kenya doubles planned debut Eurobond to $1 billion
guru267
#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:03:56 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
has the KNBS released inflation rates for the month of July.
They were to be released today afternoon


With T-bills looking up, the inflation rate for July could only expected to face a certain direction.


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guru267
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:12:47 PM
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maka wrote:
Am wth bwana hisah on this something is indeed not adding up...why is the govt borrowing so expensively?


13% is still the cheapest debt in town whichever way you look at it!

Tbill rates will fall when the CBR follows inflation down... And then stocks will be througj the roof
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:37:11 PM
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guru267 wrote:
maka wrote:
Am wth bwana hisah on this something is indeed not adding up...why is the govt borrowing so expensively?


13% is still the cheapest debt in town whichever way you look at it!

Tbill rates will fall when the CBR follows inflation down... And then stocks will be througj the roof

It is the cheapest, guru.. t bills are now being oversubscribed,its just a matter of time before the gov takes charge n push them down.
hisah
#16 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 6:48:19 AM
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Lets forget about the tbills/bonds, CBR, lending rates etc fin jargon.

Say in Dec 2011 your shopping basket required 5,000. Lets assume the basket contents have remained constant till end of July. Is this 5,000 still enough to purchase the same contents through this 7 month window of inflation nosedive? Have you increased say more milk or bread, eggs, etc with that inflation rate slamdunk to 7.74% from 19.7%...?

Answer this honestly to yourself.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 7:37:45 AM
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the games that KNBS and CBK are playing will backfire big time.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 9:46:15 AM
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hisah wrote:
Lets forget about the tbills/bonds, CBR, lending rates etc fin jargon.

Say in Dec 2011 your shopping basket required 5,000. Lets assume the basket contents have remained constant till end of July. Is this 5,000 still enough to purchase the same contents through this 7 month window of inflation nosedive? Have you increased say more milk or bread, eggs, etc with that inflation rate slamdunk to 7.74% from 19.7%...?

Answer this honestly to yourself.


Economics of the inflation

The price of a basket of goods keeps going up year in year out unless a country is in deflation. Deflation is a negative inflation rate (below 0%) which is not desirable for a developing country like ours.

Recently, the rate at which the price of a basket of good is rising has significantly declined. The inflation rate of 19.72% in Nov 2011 meant that the cost of a basket of goods was 19.72% more than in Nov 2010. The inflation rate of 7.74% in July 2012 means that the cost of a basket of goods is 7.74% more than in July 2011. It doesn’t mean that the cost of the basket of goods has declined.

Truth be told, it’s good for us that the cost of a basket of goods has not gone up a whopping 19.7%. A low and stable inflation rate is what we need. So kudos that we have achieved a single digit inflation rate. Our short term target has been met
Impunity
#19 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:41:29 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
hisah wrote:
Lets forget about the tbills/bonds, CBR, lending rates etc fin jargon.

Say in Dec 2011 your shopping basket required 5,000. Lets assume the basket contents have remained constant till end of July. Is this 5,000 still enough to purchase the same contents through this 7 month window of inflation nosedive? Have you increased say more milk or bread, eggs, etc with that inflation rate slamdunk to 7.74% from 19.7%...?

Answer this honestly to yourself.


Economics of the inflation

The price of a basket of goods keeps going up year in year out unless a country is in deflation. Deflation is a negative inflation rate (below 0%) which is not desirable for a developing country like ours.

Recently, the rate at which the price of a basket of good is rising has significantly declined. The inflation rate of 19.72% in Nov 2011 meant that the cost of a basket of goods was 19.72% more than in Nov 2010. The inflation rate of 7.74% in July 2012 means that the cost of a basket of goods is 7.74% more than in July 2011. It doesn’t mean that the cost of the basket of goods has declined.

Truth be told, it’s good for us that the cost of a basket of goods has not gone up a whopping 19.7%. A low and stable inflation rate is what we need. So kudos that we have achieved a single digit inflation rate. Our short term target has been met


What formula is used to draw the inflation equation?
Is it absolute or generalistic formula?
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hisah
#20 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:19:45 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
hisah wrote:
Lets forget about the tbills/bonds, CBR, lending rates etc fin jargon.

Say in Dec 2011 your shopping basket required 5,000. Lets assume the basket contents have remained constant till end of July. Is this 5,000 still enough to purchase the same contents through this 7 month window of inflation nosedive? Have you increased say more milk or bread, eggs, etc with that inflation rate slamdunk to 7.74% from 19.7%...?

Answer this honestly to yourself.


Economics of the inflation

The price of a basket of goods keeps going up year in year out unless a country is in deflation. Deflation is a negative inflation rate (below 0%) which is not desirable for a developing country like ours.

Recently, the rate at which the price of a basket of good is rising has significantly declined. The inflation rate of 19.72% in Nov 2011 meant that the cost of a basket of goods was 19.72% more than in Nov 2010. The inflation rate of 7.74% in July 2012 means that the cost of a basket of goods is 7.74% more than in July 2011. It doesn’t mean that the cost of the basket of goods has declined.

Truth be told, it’s good for us that the cost of a basket of goods has not gone up a whopping 19.7%. A low and stable inflation rate is what we need. So kudos that we have achieved a single digit inflation rate. Our short term target has been met

That's why I call it ponzinomics...

Anyway, let them slash the CBR by 400bps, flood the banks with easy credit and lets us celebrate the economy has been healed. Hurray!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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