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Kaigangio		#1 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 2:47:49 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768		Hi all, we have punched pastor mike njoroge so much that we have forgotten that there are others like him who did exactly the same thing to earn their riches... Let us name them and shame them too... Here we go... it all started with Wairimu Nelson in mid 1970s...this lady came to ol'kalou town for a healing mission where thousands gathered in a certain primary school's play ground... five hours of praying, singing and charging the crowd some few disabled guys were healed and could be seen at the main diase throwing away the clutches and showing the already charged crowd the evidence... the mystery here was that the disabled people that we knew did not get healed and the ones that were healed were complete strangers whom nobody knew about... it all became clear later...a certain vehicle had been spotted dropping some healthy people about 4km away along nyahururu nairobi road...these individuals had been given a pair of clutches each and i believe they had rehearsed enough on their roles...they are the only ones who got healed...NKT!!!! much later she divorced her hubby, dropped the name Nelson and started calling herself Teresia Wairimu... *...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...*
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essyk		#2 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 3:38:26 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518		wewe kaigangio chunga usile nyasi. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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YesuWangu		#3 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 3:43:36 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588		Such men and women can be punched till tomorrow but that will have little effect to the sheeple. Punching their teachings and beliefs, on the other hand, can yeild something, most often, small. Evangelicals say they base their truth on the bible. Good point. They say. But they dont. We thank providence for allowing them to slip up; people can see what they do (as sampled from this case) and hopefully come out of them. Sadly, not a few evangelicals will bargain and say 'their' church is different.
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masukuma		#4 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 3:56:52 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		YesuWangu wrote: Such men and women can be punched till tomorrow but that will have little effect to the sheeple. Punching their teachings and beliefs, on the other hand, can yeild something, most often, small. Evangelicals say they base their truth on the bible. Good point. They say. But they dont. We thank providence for allowing them to slip up; people can see what they do (as sampled from this case) and hopefully come out of them. Sadly, not a few evangelicals will bargain and say 'their' church is different. But of course! I am one of those, the key to Evangelism is doctrine... The key is to base your actions on the word the whole word and nothing but the word. Charismatic leaders who have no accountability and who teach using short texts (text out of context is a pretext) will fall off - We know them, we are not young. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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YesuWangu		#5 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 4:36:22 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588		Hello Masukuma. The word, the whole word and nothing but the word. Sola scriptura its called. On a doctrine like salvation, the key one, the evangelicals / charismatics (I mix them up sometimes) only take a sixth of the story. The rest of their narrative is conjecture, 'supported' by the single line bible texts. They can even use snippets of the bible to beat down other unfavorable parts of the bible.
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KenSaf		#6 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 4:46:34 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2008 Posts: 394		Pastor Nduati. Doors of opportunity don't just open , they have to be unlocked & it's up to you to turn the knob.
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Kaigangio		#7 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 4:47:01 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768		essyk wrote: wewe kaigangio chunga usile nyasi. don't worry essyk...a cow will always be a cow no matter the viewing angle...similarly a devil will always be a devil no matter the extent of divinity...the bible has allowed us to name them, but not cast any stone upon them... *...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...*
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Kaigangio		#8 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 4:49:12 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768		masukuma wrote: YesuWangu wrote: Such men and women can be punched till tomorrow but that will have little effect to the sheeple. Punching their teachings and beliefs, on the other hand, can yeild something, most often, small. Evangelicals say they base their truth on the bible. Good point. They say. But they dont. We thank providence for allowing them to slip up; people can see what they do (as sampled from this case) and hopefully come out of them. Sadly, not a few evangelicals will bargain and say 'their' church is different. But of course! I am one of those, the key to Evangelism is doctrine... The key is to base your actions on the word the whole word and nothing but the word. Charismatic leaders who have no accountability and who teach using short texts (text out of context is a pretext) will fall off - We know them, we are not young. well said masu... *...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...*
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Kaigangio		#9 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 4:51:04 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768		YesuWangu wrote: Hello Masukuma. The word, the whole word and nothing but the word. Sola scriptura its called. On a doctrine like salvation, the key one, the evangelicals / charismatics (I mix them up sometimes) only take a sixth of the story. The rest of their narrative is conjecture, 'supported' by the single line bible texts. They can even use snippets of the bible to beat down other unfavorable parts of the bible. are you therefore saying that the bible is contradictory? *...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...*
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Kaigangio		#10 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 4:59:14 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768		Pastor Muiru this pastor went to murang'a town at in 1995 to perform some miracles...he had a bus full of his own cogregation from nairobi and a couple of individuals in that cogregation were disabled...acting disabled... these guys were dropped off at around 1km from that place known as mukuyu market along muranga nairobi road so that nobody would notice the start of the healing journey... at the muranga institute of technology all was well and the climax came when unfarmiliar people were healed...and as expected the genuinely disabled were not touched by muiru's miracles...ABK!!!! *...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...*
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