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CIC by yaserbigchair
yaserbigchair
#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:30:54 PM
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Joined: 7/19/2006
Posts: 118
Location: Mombasa
After doing my research,I would like to share the following:

Price: 3.5
Shares: 2.2B
Valuation: 7.7B
Only shares to be traded in the next 2yrs: 550M
Price range: 2.5 to 7.5
Dividend Payment for the yr: 0.10 (yielding 2.85%)

The company has been on an upward trend, the results are impresive.

Well diversified i.e. Real estate.

In the next one year it will have to depend on Insurance earnings only,thereafter real estate earnings will boost their Revenue and Profitability and probably increase there Dividend to 0.20.

If you want to get a clear picture, just look at Safaricom from April 2008 to date.

My holding in this counter is a BUY!

Note: when trading/investing in Insurance firms always note that when the NSE index goes up,so will be the performance, when it goes down, it follows the trend.

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King G
#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:40:21 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2012
Posts: 3,855
Location: Othumo
yaserbigchair wrote:
After doing my research,I would like to share the following:

Price: 3.5
Shares: 2.2B
Valuation: 7.7B
Only shares to be traded in the next 2yrs: 550M
Price range: 2.5 to 7.5
Dividend Payment for the yr: 0.10 (yielding 2.85%)

The company has been on an upward trend, the results are impresive.

Well diversified i.e. Real estate.

In the next one year it will have to depend on Insurance earnings only,thereafter real estate earnings will boost their Revenue and Profitability and probably increase there Dividend to 0.20.

If you want to get a clear picture, just look at Safaricom from April 2008 to date.

My holding in this counter is a BUY!

Note: when trading/investing in Insurance firms always note that when the NSE index goes up,so will be the performance, when it goes down, it follows the trend.

smile


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Ericsson
#3 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:02:02 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,809
Location: NAIROBI
Have the shares started trading and what is the going price.
Can't see it on price list
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yaserbigchair
#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:08:27 PM
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Joined: 7/19/2006
Posts: 118
Location: Mombasa
@King G, thank you.

@Ericsson, they are on offer, go tell your broker to buy for you this stock.
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Kausha
#5 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:10:41 PM
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Joined: 2/8/2007
Posts: 808
@YBC, you are misleading people. CIC is a overly expensive share. at 1.9x NAV compared to even better peers, you are either assuming CIC is going to make a fortune in the future or the other companies are grossly underpriced.

Kenya RE is trading at 0.62x NAV while Pan Africa trades at 1.6x NAV (even after the recent rally). Jubilee trades at 1.4x NAV. Kenya RE has more properties than CIC will ever have, have a more secure business- compulsory cessions, Jubilee is Jubilee while Pan Africa is the largest life business - what you want to be buying. SO how do you justify a multiple of 1.9x NAV for a newly listed insurance company? Price to Earnings multiple for insurers is misleading, they can sell shares or property and book profit. You look at the Book multiples which is what you are buying.
Ericsson
#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:23:42 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,809
Location: NAIROBI
@yaserbigchair what is the going price
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
holycow
#7 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:44:50 PM
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Joined: 11/11/2006
Posts: 972
Location: Home
Ericsson wrote:
@yaserbigchair what is the going price


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hisah
#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:04:36 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
This has traded - 30,000 @7.00. So VWAP is 6.40/- That's 82% plus up. WTH????

Trades so far... 250K shares
13:43:33 19,000 4.00
13:43:33 1,000 4.00
13:42:29 30,000 7.00
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
PKoli
#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:08:35 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/10/2007
Posts: 1,587
hisah wrote:
This has traded - 30,000 @7.00. So VWAP is 6.40/- That's 82% plus up. WTH????

Trades so far... 250K shares
13:43:33 19,000 4.00
13:43:33 1,000 4.00
13:42:29 30,000 7.00


Wao, a guy bought at 7bob??
kyt
#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:10:16 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/7/2007
Posts: 2,182
PKoli wrote:
hisah wrote:
This has traded - 30,000 @7.00. So VWAP is 6.40/- That's 82% plus up. WTH????

Trades so far... 250K shares
13:43:33 19,000 4.00
13:43:33 1,000 4.00
13:42:29 30,000 7.00


Wao, a guy bought at 7bob??

thats madness, lets wait until a week is over, wacha excitement iishe
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