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guru267
#2561 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 12:15:36 PM
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Nabwire wrote:
But JP Morgan, how can the share be up almost 6% yet their trading losses estimates were found to be double what they initially reported...LOL!! Gotta love the bank hustle.


When Jamie Diamond reported the $2bn loss he indicated that losses could extend further upon review of all the trades..

Frankly the market was anticipating total trading losses of $7-8bn after unfolding.. So the $5.8bn loss must come as good news..
Mark 12:29
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Nabwire
#2562 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:28:29 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Nabwire wrote:
But JP Morgan, how can the share be up almost 6% yet their trading losses estimates were found to be double what they initially reported...LOL!! Gotta love the bank hustle.


When Jamie Diamond reported the $2bn loss he indicated that losses could extend further upon review of all the trades..

Frankly the market was anticipating total trading losses of $7-8bn after unfolding.. So the $5.8bn loss must come as good news..



Good to know! I still wouldnt touch it smile we are talking Billions here
Nabwire
#2563 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:38:40 PM
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I just noticed that Paul Krugman is on that periodic table!! This blanket hate for Wallstreet is not good, now what did Krugman do? And how come the most hated man in biz is not on that list? Or is Lloyd Blankfein Golum? LOL I bet you anything they dont give two whats about what people think of them. I'd rather be a hated Billionaire than a loved pauper, why lie! I guess Munger pic is Charlie Munger...LOL and for Alan Greespan they just put moron...hahaha. Cramer as derangium is true why lie, he knows his stuff but after watching him your head spins so much. Fecal matter...LOL
hisah
#2564 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:02:36 PM
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What’s Iran doing with Turkish gold? http://blogs.ft.com/beyo...?catid=491#axzz20AUtuBeI
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2565 Posted : Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:11:41 PM
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LIBOR drama still unfolding smile

http://news.sky.com/stor...implicates-libor-rivals

Quote:
"The macro-environment remains febrile, especially in Europe. We have to remain vigilant on balance sheet exposures and risk management. In short, our focus must remain on capital, funding and liquidity; improving returns; and driving income growth."

The memo, co-written by Marcus Agius, Barclays' outgoing chairman, apologised for the impact of the rate-fixing episode on the bank's staff, but hinted that its rivals were likely to be hit even harder than the £290m in fines imposed on Barclays.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2566 Posted : Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:09:14 PM
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US M2 supply totally crimped?!

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2567 Posted : Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:35:42 PM
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European bond yields still on a negative yield bonanza... That is bond investors are willing to pay euro gubberments to stash their money in those bonds!?

http://online.wsj.com/ar...577520480011435426.html

I dont get it? Africa gubberment bonds are positive and some double digit yields. Why take negative yields?! Yawa!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2568 Posted : Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:53:03 PM
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Libor scandal forces barclays bank out of UAE rate panel. The fallout is accelerating. What happens to the rest who are still in hiding waiting bigger fines soon... Could barclays become the lehman for europe...

www.reuters.com/article/...E86E03N20120715?irpc=932
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
youcan'tstopusnow
#2569 Posted : Sunday, July 15, 2012 9:38:03 PM
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hisah wrote:
European bond yields still on a negative yield bonanza... That is bond investors are willing to pay euro gubberments to stash their money in those bonds!?

http://online.wsj.com/ar...577520480011435426.html

I dont get it? Africa gubberment bonds are positive and some double digit yields. Why take negative yields?! Yawa!


hisah, hiyo ndio inaitwa ujinga!

And why not just put the money under the mattresssmile
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
youcan'tstopusnow
#2570 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2012 6:33:02 AM
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Could Africa-style debt relief be the answer to euro woes?
Many Greeks, battered by austerity, would look with envy at some African countries that had their crippling debts cancelled in the latter part of the 1990s to allow them a fresh start.
The Heavily Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC) Initiative was the first international response to provide comprehensive debt relief to the world's poorest, most heavily-indebted countries.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18785856
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
murchr
#2571 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2012 7:44:03 AM
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hisah wrote:
European bond yields still on a negative yield bonanza... That is bond investors are willing to pay euro gubberments to stash their money in those bonds!?

http://online.wsj.com/ar...577520480011435426.html

I dont get it? Africa gubberment bonds are positive and some double digit yields. Why take negative yields?! Yawa!


Patriotism Laughing out loudly
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#2572 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2012 8:47:34 AM
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murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
European bond yields still on a negative yield bonanza... That is bond investors are willing to pay euro gubberments to stash their money in those bonds!?

http://online.wsj.com/ar...577520480011435426.html

I dont get it? Africa gubberment bonds are positive and some double digit yields. Why take negative yields?! Yawa!


Patriotism Laughing out loudly

How are their pension scheme making money holding these bonds? Wananchi will riot soon!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Nabwire
#2573 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:42:00 PM
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A wise man changes his mind sometimes a fool never. Time to restrategize, hope for the best but plan for the worst.

http://finance.yahoo.com...ope-says-155504860.html

I wonder if energy stocks will be a good enough hedge
youcan'tstopusnow
#2574 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:03:17 AM
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HSBC used by 'drug
kingpins', says US Senate
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18867054
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
hisah
#2575 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:51:54 AM
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Nabwire wrote:
A wise man changes his mind sometimes a fool never. Time to restrategize, hope for the best but plan for the worst.

http://finance.yahoo.com...ope-says-155504860.html

I wonder if energy stocks will be a good enough hedge

Energy stocks could bleed, but that would be a lovely discount especially for those involved in EA petro play.

Men, I get goosebumps when Peter Schiff starts making those calls. He's always ahead of the curve and things have a way of unraveling suddenly. Back in 2006/2007 he was featured in a number of lamestream media biz shows, so that they could ridicule him. They started again in 2011. I don't like the pattern now that we have a ticking euroland debt bomb...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_z5dZbgTDM

https://www.youtube.com/...VNI&feature=related

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2576 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:57:59 AM
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Now Japan wants to join the negative bond yields bonanza... Deflation aka deleveraging is making money masters go crazy!

BOJ Opens Door to Negative Rates by Ending Yield Floor - http://www.bloomberg.com...yield-floor-economy.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2577 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:38:39 PM
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Gold is pending a major break priced in euros...

Graph courtesy of nowandfutures.com
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2578 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:06:21 PM
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Microsoft may report first quarterly loss in 20 years - http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7413738n

http://timesleader.com/s...rosofts-fiscal-4Q,177787
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#2579 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 12:23:19 PM
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Libor scandal: Ben Bernanke says system flawed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18873944

Quote:
The Libor system, which sets inter-bank lending rates, is "structurally flawed", the chairman of the US central bank has said.


It takes a lot of guts for a bankster to admit this sh**...

Libor scandal: Central bankers, regulators to hold talks on scrapping - http://economictimes.ind...rticleshow/15040559.cms

Quote:
Democratic senator Robert Menendez said the Libor scandal represented the "culture of greed and lying" in the banking world.


Quote:
Mr Bernanke also called for action to address the massive tax rises and spending cuts looming in the US. If these were not changed, the US could fall into recession, he said.

At the end of 2012 tax cuts brought in by the George W Bush administration are due to expire and $1.2 trillion (£770bn) in automatic spending cuts will take effect.

Central bank chairman Ben Bernanke told US senators that the fiscal cliff, as it is known, needed to be tackled "sooner rather than later".



$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mnandii
#2580 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:53:43 PM
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Massive Wealth destruction Coming

Another name for Deflation.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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