I just listened to this talk by Caroline Mutoko and cannot really make up my mind whether this is incitement or motivation.

Help me out, here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7dSYN9bhOQ

Would you like your daughter, sister, girlfriend or any lady you care about to take this message to heart and believe and act as advised by Caroline Mutoko??

Do women pay to attend these conferences? Cause if they do I think they are being duped. Feminism, like poverty, is a richly rewarding "profession" for the "professionals" dealing in its currency. Men do not consider women as enemies, or as competition, except on a case by case basis (say where there is a ka-contract or job to be picked up). That is why dudes do not converge conferences like these. At the end of the day - you go to your home, attend your job, mind your relatives, issues and things - you are on your own.

I think her talk depends on how you want to interpret it. I want to see a man here who will tell her sister to take up any man in the street just so that she is not "choosy".

I want to also see a man who will pick any woman in the street and make her his wife just because she is "cheap".... Most men, and i want the wazua men to prove me wrong, will not go with a yes yes yes kind of woman.... they will ask "where are her standards? She does not have any standards." And then they will brand her "cheapstake/lose/not-a-wife-material etc"... It has nothing to do with money or material things, it has everything to do with character. if you set your character so low, then you get what you deserve, whether you are a man or a woman.... How many men right here know if they were given a chance they wouldnt choose the partner they have right now? why, because there are some flaws they ignored and now they are biting but they have gone too far to turn back and in their silence they ask "what was i thinking? If i knew what i know today, i'd not make the same mistake".

Its real, its life and someone has to say it. I will say it to my son too. If you are raising an irresponsible daughter, am sorry, but i will warn him against her. It's my duty. I'll guide him, but he'll make the decision and live with it. The same thing would happen if i had a daughter. Its only that her audience are women and she gave the anecdotes with material stuff otherwise its an all round aspect of life - including your own achievements.

I know a friend of mine who, when some boys were bullying gals, she stood up for her self and told the boys what she believes her rights are - she's less than 10 and the dad was the most proud dad in the world at that moment. Why? Because it gives him the comfort that she will not be a doormat and no man will treat her as one.... Men do not want a doormat.... That's the fact of the matter. But unfortunately, most women think when they become a door mat, the man will fall for them because they are not "difficult".... being difficult (arrogant, rude, unpleasant, disrespectful) is totally different from being "difficult"(principled, intelligent, ambitious, feminine, respectful to herself etc).

we arent getting bwana magigi. elaborate further. Strathmore has a Bachelor of science degree in leadership and management

someone please put that "b**ch PLEASE" pic here

My main question are men looking in Ladies what CAROL is Equiping them with? I think proverb 31 is sufficient for any woman. WHY IS IT CAROL HAS FAILED IN HER EXPERIMENT does she want other women to follow that route. i believe there so many women who have achieved it only that they are not given an opportunity to air their success.

......no problem with single women until you start giving advice on relationships!!!

wear skirts that hit the knees na yeye kwa hiyo clip amevaa bikers ndani

My personal take is that women have different needs at different stages in their lives. What Caroline is sharing is the benefit of her personal experience when she was in her 20s. Nothing wrong with that.

However whether these women in their 20s choose to follow her advise is up to them. But the best lessons are those taught by one's own mistakes.