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hisah
#481 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:44:21 AM
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guru267 wrote:
PKoli wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
we'll 5 bob. let me feed the speculation. Market lively, i don't expect a slump, INITIALLY.


Possibly 6-7 during the first day, corresponding to 120-140 pre-split price.


@PKoli if my memory serves me right the pre split price was 70-80... This actually corresponds with 3.5-4bob..

I dont expect it above 5bob on the first day!

@5 on 1st trading day would mean a 42% gain?! Unless they've discovered oil... But the market being a place of irrational emotions anything goes.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
PKoli
#482 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:22:09 AM
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guru267 wrote:
PKoli wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
we'll 5 bob. let me feed the speculation. Market lively, i don't expect a slump, INITIALLY.


Possibly 6-7 during the first day, corresponding to 120-140 pre-split price.


@PKoli if my memory serves me right the pre split price was 70-80... This actually corresponds with 3.5-4bob..

I dont expect it above 5bob on the first day!


I remember when Equity was listed the offer price was 70. Not sure if anyone bought it at below 120.
PKoli
#483 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:23:45 AM
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guru267 wrote:
PKoli wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
we'll 5 bob. let me feed the speculation. Market lively, i don't expect a slump, INITIALLY.


Possibly 6-7 during the first day, corresponding to 120-140 pre-split price.


@PKoli if my memory serves me right the pre split price was 70-80... This actually corresponds with 3.5-4bob..

I dont expect it above 5bob on the first day!


I remember when Equity was listed the offer price was 70. Not sure if anyone bought it at below 120.
the deal
#484 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:35:23 AM
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I'm not on this Bus but it will RALLY for sure on listing day. I will buy once folks start to profit take!!!
PKoli
#485 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:46:28 AM
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the deal wrote:
I'm not on this Bus but it will RALLY for sure on listing day. I will buy once folks start to profit take!!!

@ the deal,

What price are you eyeing CIC?
the deal
#486 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:57:01 AM
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PKoli wrote:
the deal wrote:
I'm not on this Bus but it will RALLY for sure on listing day. I will buy once folks start to profit take!!!

@ the deal,

What price are you eyeing CIC?

At Kes3.50-Kes4.50 I would be a buyer...but sadly folks won't let me in @ that price...this thing might go the CFCI way I.e gain +100% and then hit by massive profit taking...
PKoli
#487 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 12:16:30 PM
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the deal wrote:
PKoli wrote:
the deal wrote:
I'm not on this Bus but it will RALLY for sure on listing day. I will buy once folks start to profit take!!!

@ the deal,

What price are you eyeing CIC?

At Kes3.50-Kes4.50 I would be a buyer...but sadly folks won't let me in @ that price...this thing might go the CFCI way I.e gain +100% and then hit by massive profit taking...


Generally, there is no much free float, but after the frenzy of initial listing is over, you might get some shares. You cant believe how much I bought this stock..KES 22.5(1 bob now)during the initial offer. CIC guys were begging us to buy..
the deal
#488 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 12:59:47 PM
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PKoli wrote:
the deal wrote:
PKoli wrote:
the deal wrote:
I'm not on this Bus but it will RALLY for sure on listing day. I will buy once folks start to profit take!!!

@ the deal,

What price are you eyeing CIC?

At Kes3.50-Kes4.50 I would be a buyer...but sadly folks won't let me in @ that price...this thing might go the CFCI way I.e gain +100% and then hit by massive profit taking...


Generally, there is no much free float, but after the frenzy of initial listing is over, you might get some shares. You cant believe how much I bought this stock..KES 22.5(1 bob now)during the initial offer. CIC guys were begging us to buy..

Lucky you...I'm sure in 5 yrs...your returns will be 1000%....wooow...mind blowing...Centum should hire folks like you!!!
Aguytrying
#489 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:03:01 PM
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PKoli wrote:
the deal wrote:
PKoli wrote:
the deal wrote:
I'm not on this Bus but it will RALLY for sure on listing day. I will buy once folks start to profit take!!!

@ the deal,

What price are you eyeing CIC?

At Kes3.50-Kes4.50 I would be a buyer...but sadly folks won't let me in @ that price...this thing might go the CFCI way I.e gain +100% and then hit by massive profit taking...


Generally, there is no much free float, but after the frenzy of initial listing is over, you might get some shares. You cant believe how much I bought this stock..KES 22.5(1 bob now)during the initial offer. CIC guys were begging us to buy..


I remember you talking about this stock alot back then. It's your time to eat.
I wouldn't be surprised by a price above 5.00 bob. it looks "cheap" due to the low numerical value. The market may really push this one up beyond our estimates.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
PKoli
#490 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:15:35 PM
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@Aguy, Wazua, then stockskenya has always been educative. I get mesmerised at how guys are able to analyse all types of investments and the way they share the info is really encouraging. I did not have many followers for CIC though. At my place of work, outside where CIC had set-up a desk for 1st placement, I only managed to get one follower. Later, one guy was so impressed that during second placement he bought about 200,000 shares. He now owns over 4millions shares. I am sure if the stock will trade above 5 bob, he will smile like the deal..
bartum
#491 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:41:55 PM
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@pkoli iam one of your followers.wazua should be valued in terms of millions fellows get from info shared amongst ourselves. Wooooow wazua live a thousand years for my great great great great granchildren to see you.
PKoli
#492 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:49:49 PM
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bartum wrote:
@pkoli iam one of your followers.wazua should be valued in terms of millions fellows get from info shared amongst ourselves. Wooooow wazua live a thousand years for my great great great great granchildren to see you.


I could not see your name in the CIC Annual accounts, I think you bought shares through proxy
speculator
#493 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:11:26 PM
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Breaking news; Listing now 18th source CIC twitter.
PKoli
#494 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:16:17 PM
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speculator wrote:
Breaking news; Listing now 18th source CIC twitter.


Saying so at their website
bird_man
#495 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:26:42 PM
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Took my share cert for immobilization about 1month ago (June) & calling Investax(Cfc Financial Agent) today they tell me it will be done after listing with no definate date.Guys,does it take that long??
Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
Chaka
#496 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:33:06 PM
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What does listing by intro mean?Who will be elligible to purchase the shares?
PKoli
#497 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:36:53 PM
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Chaka wrote:
What does listing by intro mean?Who will be elligible to purchase the shares?


Anyone is elligible to buy including yourself.
Okonkwo
#498 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:59:34 PM
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Hon Wazuans (Professionals)

Given EPS, PE, DPS and NAV, how do you determine the real value of a share to know whether it is over-valued or undervalued. For example:

EPS = 0.268
PE= 13
DPS= 1.5
NAV= 2

Q1. What is the right market value of this share?
q2. Is it over/under valued if market value is Ksh.10?

Pls clarify
youcan'tstopusnow
#499 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:33:43 PM
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Okonkwo wrote:
Hon Wazuans (Professionals)

Given EPS, PE, DPS and NAV, how do you determine the real value of a share to know whether it is over-valued or undervalued. For example:

EPS = 0.268
PE= 13
DPS= 1.5
NAV= 2

Q1. What is the right market value of this share?
q2. Is it over/under valued if market value is Ksh.10?

Pls clarify


EPS 0.268 na DPS 1.5? Kwani this company is taking loans to pay dividends? I would avoid;-)
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Aguytrying
#500 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:26:51 PM
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PKoli wrote:
bartum wrote:
@pkoli iam one of your followers.wazua should be valued in terms of millions fellows get from info shared amongst ourselves. Wooooow wazua live a thousand years for my great great great great granchildren to see you.


I could not see your name in the CIC Annual accounts, I think you bought shares through proxy


I followed this thread from the start and at some point considered buying Cic but i had no experience with OTC and had other investments.
But even more importantly i have learned something new.
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