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Kcb q1 pbt up 5%
leti
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:55:00 PM
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Kcb's first quarter profit before tax is up 5%,can we expect the same range for equity.if yes we could be in for another rough ride.

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#2 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2009 7:34:00 PM
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Compared with last year what do we conclude?

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eli
#3 Posted : Friday, May 01, 2009 7:25:00 AM
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Equity will record over 50% increase!

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#4 Posted : Friday, May 01, 2009 8:06:00 AM
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Not a good start for KCB

Negative impact likely on the share price if the trend continues in Q2

The KCB I know since 2004 always returns minimum of 30% pre tax profit.

My basket in NSE is full of KCB shares



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mozenrat
#5 Posted : Friday, May 01, 2009 9:41:00 AM
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Increase in NPLs by over 1 billion in only 3 months!!! Not good at all..
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#6 Posted : Saturday, May 02, 2009 9:38:00 AM
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The accounts were compared with the same period we had post election violence i.e jan-March 2008. i see this as not a good performance and actually should be a sign of rough times ahead.

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BAAK
#7 Posted : Saturday, May 02, 2009 10:09:00 AM
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I think it would be unrealistic to expect EB to double profits every year perpetually...If you bought with this mindset please sell- we buy.

It would be better to look at their longterm planning,e.g. their foray into UG,which,if all things remain constant,should be able to at least double growth annually until they reach a plateau say in five years...plus growth due to the impending common market for EA,indipendence of S. Sudan,etc.

If the Banking industry in kenya is worth 30B or thereabout interms of annual profits,shouldn't a single bank with 50% accounts should be able to grow annual profits all the way to 15B from the kenyan operation in the fullness of time?
mv ufanisi
#8 Posted : Saturday, May 02, 2009 11:52:00 AM
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KCB expanded into UG,Equity Bank invaded Uganda.

Equity's strategy is total control (more like an epidemic),most of these other banks go into a new market and just want to have a presence. KCB has been in UG for a long time and they boast 9 branches. Equity officially launched with 50 branches.

Anyway not to discount the huge effect of the post election violence and the resultant economic shocks - goes to show just how much the economy is dependent on a working political system.

My gut feeling is that a lot of banks will perform worse than they did last year. In the coming week,the horses will be coming back home with bad news.

I will be very impressed if ANY bank does more than 20% profits.
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#9 Posted : Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:55:00 PM
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*** Q1 is generally slower than Q2 & Q3. Q4 always had write-offs coz of audit.
*** KCB is expanding & I am curious as to how much of the 'expansion & setup costs' have been written off in Q1.
*** In this tough economy it is good to see profit growth.

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#10 Posted : Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:09:00 PM
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On Ug... it will be tougher to double profits for 5 years straight. Maybe 2 years. Why? Ugandan banks have taken notice of Equity's performance/strategies in Kenya & are countering EB's efforts.

*** On Kenya,having 50% of the accounts does NOT equate to 50% of profits since most of the absolute 'profitable' accounts are at other banks esp corporate banks e.g. Barclays,StanChart,I&M Bank,Citibank,CBA,DTB,etc.

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#11 Posted : Saturday, May 02, 2009 7:36:00 PM
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Equity is already ahead of its growth curve courtesy of Ksh1bn additional income from the Safcom IPO. Therefore,I am projecting 40-60% growth for 2009 and around 40% for 2010.
KCB-I still haven't seen the P&L so can't comment though it was strange that Interest Income,Fees & Commission all grew by 30%+ and still only posted 5% growth. I am assuming something happened either in costs or loan loss provision.

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