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Tales of our Origin
MrTyrus
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:22:29 AM
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I just saw some clip on youtube about Gikuyu, Mumbi, the 9 daughters and the Akamba.

So, apparently there was a 10th daughter who got impregnated by her nephew and Gikuyu was not amused so he kicked them out of Mukurwe wa Nyagathanga to which they went and formed their own clan, the Akamba.

I tried finding the tales of the Akamba origin but no Mkamba friend of mine knows any.

Does anyone have a different version of the Akamba origin?

What are the tales of origin for the other Kenyan tribes?

Garden of Eden
Impunity
#2 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 12:32:58 PM
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MrTyrus wrote:
I just saw some clip on youtube about Gikuyu, Mumbi, the 9 daughters and the Akamba.

So, apparently there was a 10th daughter who got impregnated by her nephew and Gikuyu was not amused so he kicked them out of Mukurwe wa Nyagathanga to which they went and formed their own clan, the Akamba.

I tried finding the tales of the Akamba origin but no Mkamba friend of mine knows any.

Does anyone have a different version of the Akamba origin?

What are the tales of origin for the other Kenyan tribes?

Garden of Eden


You are inviting the wrath of Kibunjia by going that far...
Pray
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MrTyrus
#3 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:12:06 PM
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Impunity wrote:
MrTyrus wrote:
I just saw some clip on youtube about Gikuyu, Mumbi, the 9 daughters and the Akamba.

So, apparently there was a 10th daughter who got impregnated by her nephew and Gikuyu was not amused so he kicked them out of Mukurwe wa Nyagathanga to which they went and formed their own clan, the Akamba.

I tried finding the tales of the Akamba origin but no Mkamba friend of mine knows any.

Does anyone have a different version of the Akamba origin?

What are the tales of origin for the other Kenyan tribes?

Garden of Eden


You are inviting the wrath of Kibunjia by going that far...
Pray



how now? I think NCIC was clear in supporting discussing ethnicity in this process of healing. One is able to accomodate another when you appreciate their story and you can only do this by hearing and listening to their story.

If we all fret Kibunjia and never discuss ethnicity then the tribal gaps will only grow bigger.
mkeiyd
#4 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:45:08 PM
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MrTyrus wrote:
I just saw some clip on youtube about Gikuyu, Mumbi, the 9 daughters and the Akamba.

So, apparently there was a 10th daughter who got impregnated by her nephew and Gikuyu was not amused so he kicked them out of Mukurwe wa Nyagathanga to which they went and formed their own clan, the Akamba.

I tried finding the tales of the Akamba origin but no Mkamba friend of mine knows any.

Does anyone have a different version of the Akamba origin?

What are the tales of origin for the other Kenyan tribes?

Garden of Eden


@MrCyrus, that tale cannot be further from the truth. Where was Mukurwe wa Nyagathanga?
If you talk to the old Wakambas, they will tell you of their journey from Shimba hills[that area] after crossing over from Tanzania [the late Bingu wa Mutharika clan related to the Wakamba], thru' mbooni ,,,,..
The stories of mumbi are generally confined in and around Mt.Kenya[kirinyaga].
Impunity
#5 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:07:14 PM
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MrTyrus wrote:
Impunity wrote:
MrTyrus wrote:
I just saw some clip on youtube about Gikuyu, Mumbi, the 9 daughters and the Akamba.

So, apparently there was a 10th daughter who got impregnated by her nephew and Gikuyu was not amused so he kicked them out of Mukurwe wa Nyagathanga to which they went and formed their own clan, the Akamba.

I tried finding the tales of the Akamba origin but no Mkamba friend of mine knows any.

Does anyone have a different version of the Akamba origin?

What are the tales of origin for the other Kenyan tribes?

Garden of Eden


You are inviting the wrath of Kibunjia by going that far...
Pray



how now? I think NCIC was clear in supporting discussing ethnicity in this process of healing. One is able to accomodate another when you appreciate their story and you can only do this by hearing and listening to their story.

If we all fret Kibunjia and never discuss ethnicity then the tribal gaps will only grow bigger.


How will Kaos think of you if you view them and refer to them as products of illicit romantic relationship within a Gikuyu in the house of mumbi?
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MrTyrus
#6 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 3:40:57 PM
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@Mkeiyd...mukurwe wa nyagathanga is in Muranga county

@Impunity...that is not my view, it's a Kikuyu lore that state that and this is not in any way a creation based on current politics. these are lores passed from centuries ago. It could be true or not, the only way to know is to ask.
majimaji
#7 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:23:29 PM
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Kikuyu and other Central Bantus are only 3rd wave immigrants from the Cameroon-Congo area, among the last to check in around 1500 AD.

@ Mr Tyrus, as an anthropologist u shud know.
mkeiyd
#8 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:38:01 PM
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Those tales were for entertaining[literature]. NOT factual.
Robinhood
#9 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:16:31 PM
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Tribal bigotry - The 'we are superior than you' kind of thing
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Kaka M
#10 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:33:41 PM
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majimaji wrote:

Kikuyu and other Central Bantus are only 3rd wave immigrants from the Cameroon-Congo area, among the last to check in around 1500 AD.

@ Mr Tyrus, as an anthropologist u shud know.





I remember learning in class 3 that Masais believe that they fell from heaven with their cattle and that the Nyamwezi of Tanzania believe that they came from the moon.
Most Bantus are said to have originated from Congo area, I remember hearing someone say that specically kambas originated from Katanga in DRC.
essyk
#11 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:12:46 PM
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I came from Pandya Memorial Hospital.

My mother gave birth to me.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
aemathenge
#12 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:30:00 PM
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essyk wrote:
I came from Pandya Memorial Hospital.

My mother gave birth to me.


I came from Mathari Hospital in Nyeri. My mother (bless her) gave birth to me.
murchr
#13 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:40:49 PM
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Kaka M wrote:
majimaji wrote:

Kikuyu and other Central Bantus are only 3rd wave immigrants from the Cameroon-Congo area, among the last to check in around 1500 AD.

@ Mr Tyrus, as an anthropologist u shud know.





I remember learning in class 3 that Masais believe that they fell from heaven with their cattle and that the Nyamwezi of Tanzania believe that they came from the moon.
Most Bantus are said to have originated from Congo area, I remember hearing someone say that specically kambas originated from Katanga in DRC.


Is there any substantive research that has been done to prove this? Are there any similarities in the lingo spoken there?

I know the Kamba language is spoken in TZ and the Kenyan coastal strip
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#14 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:43:13 PM
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Am more interested in knowing where these growing legions of Kenyan cannibals amongst us wanatoka...wengine wako U.S. wanatafuna Ghanaians, wengine humu mumu herding cattle,wengine hawajapatikana bado...
Impunity
#15 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:51:31 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Am more interested in knowing where these growing legions of Kenyan cannibals amongst us wanatoka...wengine wako U.S. wanatafuna Ghanaians, wengine humu mumu herding cattle,wengine hawajapatikana bado...


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MrTyrus
#16 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:43:50 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Am more interested in knowing where these growing legions of Kenyan cannibals amongst us wanatoka...wengine wako U.S. wanatafuna Ghanaians, wengine humu mumu herding cattle,wengine hawajapatikana bado...


Cannibalism has been with us for long. and by us i mean all humankind. growing up in Githurai there was this home called 'kwa githu' (belonging to githu) who was rumoured to eat whoever crosses his compound n pple avoided the hole radius from his house for years, i think they still do. whether true or not, whoever came up with the story must have had some knowledge of existense of cannibalism. You cannot make this stuff up like Jeff says
essyk
#17 Posted : Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:57:18 PM
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MrTyrus wrote:
there was this home called 'kwa githu' (belonging to githu) who was rumoured to eat whoever crosses his compound n pple avoided the hole radius from his house for years,


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly These kind of stories scare the hell out of me.
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#18 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2012 12:28:52 AM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Am more interested in knowing where these growing legions of Kenyan cannibals amongst us wanatoka...wengine wako U.S. wanatafuna Ghanaians, wengine humu mumu herding cattle,wengine hawajapatikana bado...


LOL..Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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harrydre
#19 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2012 12:31:15 AM
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Kaka M wrote:
majimaji wrote:

Kikuyu and other Central Bantus are only 3rd wave immigrants from the Cameroon-Congo area, among the last to check in around 1500 AD.

@ Mr Tyrus, as an anthropologist u shud know.





I remember learning in class 3 that Masais believe that they fell from heaven with their cattle and that the Nyamwezi of Tanzania believe that they came from the moon.
Most Bantus are said to have originated from Congo area, I remember hearing someone say that specically kambas originated from Katanga in DRC.



Everyone looked forward to attending these classes back when kids grew up, why kenyans later on develop hatred to other tribes, I do not know.
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harrydre
#20 Posted : Friday, July 06, 2012 12:42:30 AM
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MrTyrus wrote:
I just saw some clip on youtube about Gikuyu, Mumbi, the 9 daughters and the Akamba.

So, apparently there was a 10th daughter who got impregnated by her nephew and Gikuyu was not amused so he kicked them out of Mukurwe wa Nyagathanga to which they went and formed their own clan, the Akamba.

I tried finding the tales of the Akamba origin but no Mkamba friend of mine knows any.

Does anyone have a different version of the Akamba origin?

What are the tales of origin for the other Kenyan tribes?

Garden of Eden


going by what we know and hear about kaos, this could have happened. i am not saying it happened smile smile


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