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KENOL KOBIL .... 2012
Jamani
#1061 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:52:50 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
You cannot dictate how many workers i need,telkom workers never suceeded and new managements come with new ideas so jobs are not cast on stone provided your dues are paid what else?


We have to learn that jobs are not cast on stone, these are simple privileges to excise our services at a fee .... and as stated above workers cannot dictate, it happened to Telkom, Celtel, KDN, Airtel, MTNbusiness, Esso, Agip, shellBP, Caltex even Kenya Railways and now KK among others... as an employee one has to take serious lessons and learn from these.... save and have a plan for your future otherwise we shall always be crying niko na watoto wadogo, niko na loan, mortgage, naomba serikali etc...
mlennyma
#1062 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:03:22 AM
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@jamani well put,but lawyers have to make legal fees from bogus cases anyway.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Cde Monomotapa
#1063 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:03:52 AM
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the deal wrote:
I see nothing wrong with the workers petition, in fact its a pre requisite from Puma to assure that the takeover does not result in Job losses...this is one of the smoothest takeovers I have seen...I will be worried when CMA or GoK tries to block it for some reason unknown...so cut the flack to the KK staff...it is where it is today because of the sacrifices of some of this staff.

Thank you for clarifying what I expect to see in (black) South Africa once this Euro crisis chews away jobs and folks realize they owned nothing but consumption.
Cde Monomotapa
#1064 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:05:44 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
@jamani well put,but lawyers have to make legal fees from bogus cases anyway.

Yezzir! smile
the deal
#1065 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:30:34 AM
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The KK staff are exercising their democratic right...if their petition is water...the judge will pee on it and throw it away...just the way I can go to court and try and stop this takeover if Puma offers @Qw 10 bob..
the deal
#1066 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:37:05 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
the deal wrote:
I see nothing wrong with the workers petition, in fact its a pre requisite from Puma to assure that the takeover does not result in Job losses...this is one of the smoothest takeovers I have seen...I will be worried when CMA or GoK tries to block it for some reason unknown...so cut the flack to the KK staff...it is where it is today because of the sacrifices of some of this staff.

Thank you for clarifying what I expect to see in (black) South Africa once this Euro crisis chews away jobs and folks realize they owned nothing but consumption.

Those are some of the most empowered Black people around...read Bee...affirmative action etc...its only in Kenya here where wealth is controlled by a few black individuals while the majority (black s) languish in poverty...Black on Black arpatheid...I see it with my own eyes...
Cde Monomotapa
#1067 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:47:04 AM
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In Kenya even watchies have access to arable land. Anyway, this is not where we come to be religious. Here we are businessmen & capitalists. It is well known the high level of sophisticated trade SA has with Europe & who owns the productive capital. Frankly, if my traditional mkts are shrinking and I lack a quick alternative, people are going to get fired as I reorganize things or deploy capital elsewhere. Simple.
youcan'tstopusnow
#1068 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:51:59 AM
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Aguytrying, I am also wondering what they meant by "early next week". Meanwhile, demand is waning. Might we see a lower close today?
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
VituVingiSana
#1069 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:56:34 AM
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the deal wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
the deal wrote:
I see nothing wrong with the workers petition, in fact its a pre requisite from Puma to assure that the takeover does not result in Job losses...this is one of the smoothest takeovers I have seen...I will be worried when CMA or GoK tries to block it for some reason unknown...so cut the flack to the KK staff...it is where it is today because of the sacrifices of some of this staff.

Thank you for clarifying what I expect to see in (black) South Africa once this Euro crisis chews away jobs and folks realize they owned nothing but consumption.

Those are some of the most empowered Black people around...read Bee...affirmative action etc...its only in Kenya here where wealth is controlled by a few black individuals while the majority (black s) languish in poverty...Black on Black arpatheid...I see it with my own eyes...
Turns out some of the BEE folks are not the wananchi but the likes of connected individuals. When choosing a BEE partner, some firms were forced to go the 'political' route i.e. choosing political heavyweights or friends of politicians.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#1070 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:01:13 PM
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the deal wrote:
The KK staff are exercising their democratic right...if their petition is water...the judge will pee on it and throw it away...just the way I can go to court and try and stop this takeover if Puma offers @Qw 10 bob..
If Puma offers 10/- will the employees refund shareholders since they didn't work hard enough?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
ProverB
#1071 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:08:09 PM
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slow down on momentum...steadily rising supply against a not so strong demand... any purchase prior to March 23rd...3 months ago..is already at about 40% return on investment...that's hard not to cash in...

..a slight drop in price ain't so cool... psychological assumption it has hit ceiling..

..forget not profit warning. when do they announce results?
..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
Cde Monomotapa
#1072 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:15:31 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
the deal wrote:
I see nothing wrong with the workers petition, in fact its a pre requisite from Puma to assure that the takeover does not result in Job losses...this is one of the smoothest takeovers I have seen...I will be worried when CMA or GoK tries to block it for some reason unknown...so cut the flack to the KK staff...it is where it is today because of the sacrifices of some of this staff.

Thank you for clarifying what I expect to see in (black) South Africa once this Euro crisis chews away jobs and folks realize they owned nothing but consumption.

Those are some of the most empowered Black people around...read Bee...affirmative action etc...its only in Kenya here where wealth is controlled by a few black individuals while the majority (black s) languish in poverty...Black on Black arpatheid...I see it with my own eyes...
Turns out some of the BEE folks are not the wananchi but the likes of connected individuals. When choosing a BEE partner, some firms were forced to go the 'political' route i.e. choosing political heavyweights or friends of politicians.

IMO, BEE was a sucker move, at the peak of economic strength - so you see ain't nothing nice where the global econ.is headed.
VituVingiSana
#1073 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:25:19 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
the deal wrote:
I see nothing wrong with the workers petition, in fact its a pre requisite from Puma to assure that the takeover does not result in Job losses...this is one of the smoothest takeovers I have seen...I will be worried when CMA or GoK tries to block it for some reason unknown...so cut the flack to the KK staff...it is where it is today because of the sacrifices of some of this staff.

Thank you for clarifying what I expect to see in (black) South Africa once this Euro crisis chews away jobs and folks realize they owned nothing but consumption.

Those are some of the most empowered Black people around...read Bee...affirmative action etc...its only in Kenya here where wealth is controlled by a few black individuals while the majority (black s) languish in poverty...Black on Black arpatheid...I see it with my own eyes...
Turns out some of the BEE folks are not the wananchi but the likes of connected individuals. When choosing a BEE partner, some firms were forced to go the 'political' route i.e. choosing political heavyweights or friends of politicians.

IMO, BEE was a sucker move, at the peak of economic strength - so you see ain't nothing nice where the global econ.is headed.
Many got shares through the BEE at discounted prices or through soft loans so the risk is minimal vs an 'external' investor. The BEE idea is a good one but it was misused as has happened with such 're-distribution' programs in most African countries including Kenya.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
youcan'tstopusnow
#1074 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:34:57 PM
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Trades are now at 15.70
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
the deal
#1075 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:56:41 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
the deal wrote:
I see nothing wrong with the workers petition, in fact its a pre requisite from Puma to assure that the takeover does not result in Job losses...this is one of the smoothest takeovers I have seen...I will be worried when CMA or GoK tries to block it for some reason unknown...so cut the flack to the KK staff...it is where it is today because of the sacrifices of some of this staff.

Thank you for clarifying what I expect to see in (black) South Africa once this Euro crisis chews away jobs and folks realize they owned nothing but consumption.

Those are some of the most empowered Black people around...read Bee...affirmative action etc...its only in Kenya here where wealth is controlled by a few black individuals while the majority (black s) languish in poverty...Black on Black arpatheid...I see it with my own eyes...
Turns out some of the BEE folks are not the wananchi but the likes of connected individuals. When choosing a BEE partner, some firms were forced to go the 'political' route i.e. choosing political heavyweights or friends of politicians.

IMO, BEE was a sucker move, at the peak of economic strength - so you see ain't nothing nice where the global econ.is headed.
Many got shares through the BEE at discounted prices or through soft loans so the risk is minimal vs an 'external' investor. The BEE idea is a good one but it was misused as has happened with such 're-distribution' programs in most African countries including Kenya.

The euro zone crisis is affecting everyone even KK...in fact Kenya would be worst affected just look @ the aid component of the budget...look where CBR is and the debt to gdp figure (52% and rising)...there is little room for stimulation like in the previous crisis...oil @ $60/barrel...Turkana oil becomes less viable...this debts being incurred now will come home to roast...laugh @ Greece now...you might be next!!!
mwekez@ji
#1076 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 12:57:03 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
I'm not one to split hairs, but Kenol Kobil said that the update would be early this week. Today mid day is half of the week, past which it will be beyond "early this week". tehehe

VituVingiSana
#1077 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:29:30 PM
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the deal wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
the deal wrote:
I see nothing wrong with the workers petition, in fact its a pre requisite from Puma to assure that the takeover does not result in Job losses...this is one of the smoothest takeovers I have seen...I will be worried when CMA or GoK tries to block it for some reason unknown...so cut the flack to the KK staff...it is where it is today because of the sacrifices of some of this staff.

Thank you for clarifying what I expect to see in (black) South Africa once this Euro crisis chews away jobs and folks realize they owned nothing but consumption.

Those are some of the most empowered Black people around...read Bee...affirmative action etc...its only in Kenya here where wealth is controlled by a few black individuals while the majority (black s) languish in poverty...Black on Black arpatheid...I see it with my own eyes...
Turns out some of the BEE folks are not the wananchi but the likes of connected individuals. When choosing a BEE partner, some firms were forced to go the 'political' route i.e. choosing political heavyweights or friends of politicians.

IMO, BEE was a sucker move, at the peak of economic strength - so you see ain't nothing nice where the global econ.is headed.
Many got shares through the BEE at discounted prices or through soft loans so the risk is minimal vs an 'external' investor. The BEE idea is a good one but it was misused as has happened with such 're-distribution' programs in most African countries including Kenya.

The euro zone crisis is affecting everyone even KK...in fact Kenya would be worst affected just look @ the aid component of the budget...look where CBR is and the debt to gdp figure (52% and rising)...there is little room for stimulation like in the previous crisis...oil @ $60/barrel...Turkana oil becomes less viable...this debts being incurred now will come home to roast...laugh @ Greece now...you might be next!!!
Kenya is way better off than Greece. If Germany dumps the Euro (or more likely) kick out Greece from the Euro then ka-boom for Greece.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Cde Monomotapa
#1078 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:35:36 PM
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May the best man win. FY 2022 we balance the scores.
mlennyma
#1079 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:36:19 PM
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I have asked myself why kenya can not buy crude reserves to last for a year now that crude is down and will rise again.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
lovely2010
#1080 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:40:34 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
I have asked myself why kenya can not buy crude reserves to last for a year now that crude is down and will rise again.


Duh...!!! Coz they have Gaga's brain...big heads with a jelly fish running inside their heads!
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