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Question for A4architect and Mr Pablo (roofing tips) part 2
Agra
#21 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:39:25 AM
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Are uPVC Roofing Sheets something can consider as an alternative?
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:00:41 AM
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cmk wrote:
about the water collected from the decra roofs? i have seen some guys drinking it??I hope you are right about this.

Also please enlighten me on the chinese alternative to decra and its quality plus durability and the aesthetic aspects.

will greatly appreciate your wise words.


@cmk...check the below links for info on lead poisoning from painted roofs

http://www.smh.com.au/en...risk-20100409-ryu0.html

http://www.news-medical....s/2008/04/15/37345.aspx

http://tylertork.com/diyrainbarrels/safety.html

http://water-tank-secret...d-different-roof-types/

Quote:
Lead-based paints (including primers) – are toxic and not suitable for use in association with the collection of rainwater for human consumption.

Acrylic paint – will leach dissolved chemicals including detergents in the first few run-offs after application and these run-offs should not be collected.




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#23 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:03:39 AM
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kamundu wrote:
@a4architect ahsante just two swalis
Is it true clay tiles take more mbao?
What do you lay below them? Karatasi or mabati?


@kamundu..its true..clay/concrete tiles take more mbao.
You can put karatasi if your roof slope is steep or mabati if your roof slope is not steep.
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kamundu
#24 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:38:59 PM
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@a4architect, i thought it safe to take water from galsheet mabati coz its applied through electrophoresis not painting hence does not fade
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Odec
#25 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:01:03 PM
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About to roof just was wondering about this decra tiles as clay tiles are out of my list due to the weight.I would really appreciate if Architect could advice me on the following please.
1.Do they use a lot of mbao
2.Is fixing them complicated and expensive
3.What other hidden cost should i be aware of
4.Any advice from any wazuan who has used them.
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#26 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:57:00 PM
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@Odec, the decra tiles use less timber, the saving is however taken up by the expensive tiles. Fixing requires an expert, mine took about 8 days about a month ago, I would suggest you enter into a labour contract with the fundi and negotiate to have the cealing timber done too at the same time, it will save you alot, i went for this too. Once they are done, do not pay the full amount untill you are sure rain water does not leak through
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#27 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:17:27 PM
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In Australia some people use mabati and the houses still look mzuri.

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#28 Posted : Friday, January 04, 2013 9:19:47 AM
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anyone used Nyumba brand sheets from Corrugated Sheets Ltd? They are a bit cheaper compared to other box profiles..
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#29 Posted : Friday, January 04, 2013 12:24:58 PM
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pleasecallme wrote:
anyone used Nyumba brand sheets from Corrugated Sheets Ltd? They are a bit cheaper compared to other box profiles..


I have never used them, but my fundi advised me against them as they leave alot of space on doing the Kofia's.... enough space to allow birds to creep onto the ceiling.
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Tokyo
#30 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 8:55:31 AM
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Anybody with clay tiles experience.?
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#31 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:02:36 AM
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@tokyo, clay tiles are a superb roof finish..cost effective, light weight and attractive to look at.
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#32 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:31:10 AM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@tokyo, clay tiles are a superb roof finish..cost effective, light weight and attractive to look at.

Thank A4architect,
Seriously considering mainly due to water harvesting.The roof has normal Mabati. Should I replace or existing mabati can be like underlay?
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#33 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:18:43 AM
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it can remain as an underlay...
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african coloner
#34 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:45:12 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@tokyo, clay tiles are a superb roof finish..cost effective, light weight and attractive to look at.


4architect, I thought clay tiles are heaviest? i mean the ones from clay works
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#35 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:02:33 PM
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african coloner wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@tokyo, clay tiles are a superb roof finish..cost effective, light weight and attractive to look at.


4architect, I thought clay tiles are heaviest? i mean the ones from clay works


I also share the same thought, that clay tiles are among the heaviest.
One clay tile from clayworks weighs approx 3.3kgs when dry
plus the underlying roofing timber must be strong enough to support the weight.
Tokyo
#36 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:28:43 PM
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wasee wrote:
african coloner wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@tokyo, clay tiles are a superb roof finish..cost effective, light weight and attractive to look at.


4architect, I thought clay tiles are heaviest? i mean the ones from clay works


I also share the same thought, that clay tiles are among the heaviest.
One clay tile from clayworks weighs approx 3.3kgs when dry
plus the underlying roofing timber must be strong enough to support the weight.

That is my main concern considering the existing roofing built to support mabati
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, March 31, 2015 4:56:35 PM
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african coloner wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@tokyo, clay tiles are a superb roof finish..cost effective, light weight and attractive to look at.


4architect, I thought clay tiles are heaviest? i mean the ones from clay works


concrete tiles are the heaviest. clay is lighter. a thorough roof truss structural integrity check is needed to be done by your structural engineer to see if there will be new truss addition for support.
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#38 Posted : Friday, April 03, 2015 9:04:00 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
african coloner wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@tokyo, clay tiles are a superb roof finish..cost effective, light weight and attractive to look at.


4architect, I thought clay tiles are heaviest? i mean the ones from clay works


concrete tiles are the heaviest. clay is lighter. a thorough roof truss structural integrity check is needed to be done by your structural engineer to see if there will be new truss addition for support.


[quote=a4architect.com] for a flat concrete roof, to make it waterproof, can terrazo help? Am thinking of making a concrete flat roof of a maisonette....
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#39 Posted : Sunday, January 17, 2016 9:46:03 AM
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lekamu wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
african coloner wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@tokyo, clay tiles are a superb roof finish..cost effective, light weight and attractive to look at.


4architect, I thought clay tiles are heaviest? i mean the ones from clay works


concrete tiles are the heaviest. clay is lighter. a thorough roof truss structural integrity check is needed to be done by your structural engineer to see if there will be new truss addition for support.


[quote=a4architect.com] for a flat concrete roof, to make it waterproof, can terrazo help? Am thinking of making a concrete flat roof of a maisonette....


@ Pablo, @a4architect.com mko wapi? Pl enlighten us on flat vs pitched roofs especially on cost, structural and maintenance. I see its becoming a trend in many homes.
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#40 Posted : Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:17:53 PM
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Felipe wrote:
lekamu wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
african coloner wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@tokyo, clay tiles are a superb roof finish..cost effective, light weight and attractive to look at.


4architect, I thought clay tiles are heaviest? i mean the ones from clay works


concrete tiles are the heaviest. clay is lighter. a thorough roof truss structural integrity check is needed to be done by your structural engineer to see if there will be new truss addition for support.


[quote=a4architect.com] for a flat concrete roof, to make it waterproof, can terrazo help? Am thinking of making a concrete flat roof of a maisonette....


@ Pablo, @a4architect.com mko wapi? Pl enlighten us on flat vs pitched roofs especially on cost, structural and maintenance. I see its becoming a trend in many homes.

People chose flat roof because they mostly need to use the space not as a cost consideration. A slab is definitely more expensive than trusses + any roofing material
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