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Kamaa
#41 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 7:50:00 AM
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and they are smiling...



When you run so fast to get somewhere,you miss the fun of getting there... Life is not a race,so take it slowly....
When you hear what I say, you will not understand. When you see what I do, you will not comprehend
Fundaah
#42 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 7:59:00 AM
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Nothing New:

Genesis 19
1And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2And he said,Behold now,my lords,turn in,I pray you,into your servant's house,and tarry all night,and wash your feet,and ye shall rise up early,and go on your ways. And they said,Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him,and entered into his house; and he made them a feast,and did bake unleavened bread,and they did eat.

4But before they lay down,the men of the city,even the men of Sodom,compassed the house round,both old and young,all the people from every quarter:

5And they called unto Lot,and said unto him,Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us,that we may know them.

6And Lot went out at the door unto them,and shut the door after him,

7And said,I pray you,brethren,do not so wickedly.

8Behold now,I have two daughters which have not known man; let me,I pray you,bring them out unto you,and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

9And they said,Stand back. And they said again,This one fellow came in to sojourn,and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee,than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man,even Lot,and came near to break the door.

10But the men put forth their hand,and pulled Lot into the house to them,and shut to the door.

11And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness,both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

12And the men said unto Lot,Hast thou here any besides? son in law,and thy sons,and thy daughters,and whatsoever thou hast in the city,bring them out of this place:

13For we will destroy this place,because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.

14And Lot went out,and spake unto his sons in law,which married his daughters,and said,Up,get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

15And when the morning arose,then the angels hastened Lot,saying,Arise,take thy wife,and thy two daughters,which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.

16And while he lingered,the men laid hold upon his hand,and upon the hand of his wife,and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth,and set him without the city.

17And it came to pass,when they had brought them forth abroad,that he said,Escape for thy life; look not behind thee,neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain,lest thou be consumed.

18And Lot said unto them,Oh,not so,my LORD:

19Behold now,thy servant hath found grace in thy sight,and thou hast magnified thy mercy,which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain,lest some evil take me,and I die:

20Behold now,this city is near to flee unto,and it is a little one: Oh,let me escape thither,(is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.

21And he said unto him,See,I have accepted thee concerning this thing also,that I will not overthrow this city,for the which thou hast spoken.

22Haste thee,escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.

23The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.

24Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

25And he overthrew those cities,and all the plain,and all the inhabitants of the cities,and that which grew upon the ground.

26But his wife looked back from behind him,and she became a pillar of salt.

27And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the LORD:

28And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah,and toward all the land of the plain,and beheld,and,lo,the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.

29And it came to pass,when God destroyed the cities of the plain,that God remembered Abraham,and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow,when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.

30And Lot went up out of Zoar,and dwelt in the mountain,and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave,he and his two daughters.

31And the firstborn said unto the younger,Our father is old,and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

32Come,let us make our father drink wine,and we will lie with him,that we may preserve seed of our father.

33And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in,and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down,nor when she arose.

34And it came to pass on the morrow,that the firstborn said unto the younger,Behold,I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in,and lie with him,that we may preserve seed of our father.

35And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose,and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down,nor when she arose.

36Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

37And the first born bare a son,and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

38And the younger,she also bare a son,and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day



Rules of the game here: Before you post anything think.give facts only..It's a serious blog for serious people....Do not insult your brother....respect one another...Just be good.... It's good to live a honest life....life without guilt.... Jeremiah 17:11 As a partridge that hatches eggs which it has not laid,So is he who makes a fortune,but unjustly; In the midst of his days it will forsake him,And in the end he will be a fool.' From the SK Anti-hate/anti- corruption campaigner..
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
malimingi
#43 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:01:00 AM
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@selah
There is a biological reason why incest has been criminalised - children from incestous relationships are more likely to have physical and genetic defects.

@kamaa
Should they be crying?

@Fundaah
Read my post below.
Fundaah
#44 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:04:00 AM
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malimingi.... .You can refuse to believe....but dont plead ignorance....when the DAY comes..

BTW if plugs ..plugs and socket sockets ...what will be the future of mankind...?




Rules of the game here:

Before you post anything think.give facts only..It's a serious blog for serious people....Do not insult your brother....respect one another...Just be good....
It's good to live a honest life....life without guilt....

Jeremiah 17:11

As a partridge that hatches eggs which it has not laid,So is he who makes a fortune,but unjustly; In the midst of his days it will forsake him,And in the end he will be a fool.'



From the SK Anti-hate/anti- corruption campaigner..
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
TheRedPill
#45 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:07:00 AM
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@gogeta,I'm not trying to justify anything. I'm saying gays should not be persecuted. This persecution stems from self-righteous intolerance. All through history,people have been persecuted by people who think they are better than others,and in most instances it was because of religion. Christians were persecuted by Romans before Constantine,non-christians persecuted by christians after Constantine (the crusades),non-muslims having jihads declared on them,Jews persecuted by Hitler(who was christian),and this continues up to today.



I just don't believe the bible - it was introduced by colonialists to tame us and make us governable,just like Constantine did with the Europeans. The people who wrote it didn't have the benefit of technology like carbon dating to make those stories believable today - the bible approximates the earth to be approximately 12,000 years old! So,forgive me if I object to having the bible replacing all sense of reasoning. Plus you don't have to be religious to be moral - how moral are acts like suicide bombings anyway? Or preachers who use offerings to enrich themselves at the expense of their poor flock of 'sheep'?



How rational is it to base all yoour reasoning on a book written over 2000 years ago? How different is it from some of the rural folk often derided as irrational for believing what our forefathers believed. Or the rural folk over in India who forced their daughters to till their land naked in a bid to embrass the gods to send rain?

The Matrix has you...
The Real Shaft
#46 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:07:00 AM
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should we ask Nzamba to resign....???

has he considered the question....

in the constitutional reform process...???

if not...

then he is not properly...

consultative...


I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth
I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
drzhivago
#47 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:07:00 AM
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as with all other discourses that touch on matters religious,this one will not end,at least not amicably. remember the thread 'ther is no god?'. its actually as fast and generating more heat than light. the more we discuss,the more positions get entrenched. i wonder why we are so touchy on on matters that touch on faith,as if God needs our defence. some of us just stress that while we may not practise or approve of homosexuality,we have no problem accommodating those who do as long as they do not contravene our liberties. then some retain that religious tunnel vision and insist on trying to convert everyone by the sword. if this isnt intolerance,i dont know what is.

Better to be at the cause of your experience rather than at the end of it. In all situations,be cause ...
malimingi
#48 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:08:00 AM
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@Fundaah
You have not dealt with the issue I raised - your quoting the bible is a very weak basis for arguing against someone who doesnt believe in it. And this is not about me - I am just showing you the fundamental flaw in your argument and that of many others here who are quoting the koran and the bible.
masukuma
#49 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:11:00 AM
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The Truth will Remain standing!!! Its Unnatural!!! we have no apologies!!! we choose to follow the bible not your rationalization of an obviously bad deed.
Watu wameshiba sana!!! thats why they choose to start experimenting on other things. We do not ascribe to what you are preaching but our faith instructs us to stay away from such people.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Fundaah
#50 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:17:00 AM
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Those against religious arguments ....can you assure me that .... you will expressly indicate in your will that the statement ... Mungu amweke mahali pema peponi should not appear in your obituary(back pages of the Daily nation/standard or KBC after news)....?

malimingi...I did not argue ....I just stated the facts as they are put in the Word of God.. and said there is nothing new in plugs pluging...it was done by our some of our forefathers ...and It made God really angry to a point of raining fire!!!!!!!!!!



Malimingi .....What will be your reaction if your only son....daughter told you that he/she has plugged or socketed?

I know for most people it doesnt matter as long as its not my son /daughterRules of the game here: Before you post anything think.give facts only..It's a serious blog for serious people....Do not insult your brother....respect one another...Just be good.... It's good to live a honest life....life without guilt.... Jeremiah 17:11 As a partridge that hatches eggs which it has not laid,So is he who makes a fortune,but unjustly; In the midst of his days it will forsake him,And in the end he will be a fool.' From the SK Anti-hate/anti- corruption campaigner..
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
malimingi
#51 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:21:00 AM
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@masukuma
no one is forcing you to mix with gays - all that we are saying is that no one has a basis to criminalise,persecute and harass gays,simply because of the fact that they are gay.
Intelligentsia
#52 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:22:00 AM
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@All,

what must carry the day is what is good for the human society (relationships for the procreation and continuity of the human race),and this MUST supersede what an individual - esp. one wallowing in the deep end of filth (literally and figuratively) and wants to drag the rest of humanity into those pits - thinks is good for him/herself.

Hygienically,biologically and even in all religions,heterosexual relationships are encouraged and also ensure the perpetuation of mankind unlike homosexual/lesbian relationships which are selfish and myopic,being principally geared for the morbid pleasure of 2 individuals.

There is good reason why padlocks and keys are made,and make a good working pair. But you can't open a padlock with another padlock. Nor a key with another key. The 2 padlocks on the own,as well as the 2 keys on their own are meaningless to the society.


..there's nothing,absolutely nothing really,that I can't do if I put my mind to it.
Fundaah
#53 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:24:00 AM
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Intelligent man ......good

Rules of the game here: Before you post anything think.give facts only..It's a serious blog for serious people....Do not insult your brother....respect one another...Just be good.... It's good to live a honest life....life without guilt.... Jeremiah 17:11 As a partridge that hatches eggs which it has not laid,So is he who makes a fortune,but unjustly; In the midst of his days it will forsake him,And in the end he will be a fool.' From the SK Anti-hate/anti- corruption campaigner..
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
malimingi
#54 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:30:00 AM
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@Intelligent
What are you suggesting then? That all gays and lesbians should be gassed the way Hitler gassed Jews simply because,in his view,Jews were not 'good-enough' for the human kingdom?
The Real Shaft
#55 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:31:00 AM
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still thinking inside the box ..

man....

the best way to bind things together..

is by using a knot....

disapprove as social norms respect unions that can procreate.....the specie....

but do not criminalize what you can not control...

human nature...

and in any case...

so what if you condemn... ???

the Sun will still rise and set ..

kama kawaida....


I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth
I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
drzhivago
#56 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:42:00 AM
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@intelligent. i think you are not a very observant fellow. what will end the 'perpetuation of humankind' is not homosexuality but man's own foolish intelligence. with the advent of technology that can decimate whole populations at the touch of a button, one wonders what would happen if some fanatic somewhere got hold of such tools. not to mention wanton despoiling of the environment in pursuit of life's comforts among others. i wonder why there is hardly any religious viewpoint on these matters. with this kind of foolishness,humankind will be long gone before you can say ... homosexual!

Better to be at the cause of your experience rather than at the end of it. In all situations,be cause ...
Otiendes
#57 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:42:00 AM
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@Malimingi,

Your son anounces one morning that he is in love with his sister and that they are moving in together and contemplating marriage. You mention to them about the issue of genetic effect on their children and your son says that he is not planning to have children and that he is planning to go for vasectomy.

Since you do not want them to feel bad (feel persecuted) and you do not want to show intolerance you actually agree with them. In any case it does not affect you in any way. In fact you will lobby to have incest made legal in our laws.

How different is incest from homosexuality? How tolerant can you be?



The future is still orange
Fundaah
#58 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:49:00 AM
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@ Drzhivago

an answer to your question on environment and religion(bible in my case ):

Isaiah 11:9 - They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain,for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD as the waters cover the sea



Revelation 11:18 - The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead,and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name,both small and great &mdash; and for destroying those who destroy the earth

Isaiah 24:4-6 - The earth dries up and withers,the world languishes and withers,the exalted of the earth languish. The earth is defiled by its people; they have disobeyed the laws,violated the statutes and broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore a curse consumes the earth; its people must bear their guilt. Therefore earth's inhabitants are burned up,and very few are left



Jeremiah 2:7 - I brought you into a fertile land to eat its fruit and rich produce. But you came and defiled my land and made my inheritance detestable.


People read the bible well .It has answers to all your queries before you criticise









Rules of the game here: Before you post anything think.give facts only..It's a serious blog for serious people....Do not insult your brother....respect one another...Just be good.... It's good to live a honest life....life without guilt.... Jeremiah 17:11 As a partridge that hatches eggs which it has not laid,So is he who makes a fortune,but unjustly; In the midst of his days it will forsake him,And in the end he will be a fool.' From the SK Anti-hate/anti- corruption campaigner..
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
malimingi
#59 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:52:00 AM
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@Otiende
What you should be advancing are reasons why it is ok to persecute and criminalise same sex relationships instead of putting forward hypothetical situations.
malimingi
#60 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2009 8:55:00 AM
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@Fundaah
You clearly are a funda. Why are you trying to convince Christians that it is ok to declare jihad on non-believers? I hope you get the irony of my statement.
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