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KENOL KOBIL .... 2012
VituVingiSana
#921 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 9:39:07 AM
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2012 wrote:
Jamani wrote:
It would be nice getting another slice today early morning......
I won't be shocked if Puma pays 12/- smile
Well, then I would advise the s/holders to hold onto the shares!
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Hunderwear
#922 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 9:59:48 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
2012 wrote:
Jamani wrote:
It would be nice getting another slice today early morning......
I won't be shocked if Puma pays 12/- smile
Well, then I would advise the s/holders to hold onto the shares!


Well I take you meant 21 but wrote 12.Expect a minimum of 17 per share so at current price investors are staring at 20% return clean!!!!But again you never know but the value is more than the current market price
youcan'tstopusnow
#923 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:14:51 AM
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Supply now at 15.60 (the maximum for today is 15.65.) Like I said before, KK should make the announcement on Friday so we can milk this longersmile
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youcan'tstopusnow
#924 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:20:13 AM
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In fact supply yote imeishaLaughing out loudly
We need some trades though to push the VWAP for the day higher!
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VituVingiSana
#925 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:25:37 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Supply now at 15.60 (the maximum for today is 15.65.) Like I said before, KK should make the announcement on Friday so we can milk this longersmile
Well, it seems 17/- is the minimum that Puma will offer based on Kestrel's report. So one more session before the price stagnates. Is it worth taking a risk on a higher buy-out price if you buy at 17/-?

BTW, based on Kestrel's 2nd report, they valued it at 20/-. It would be unlikely that Puma had not known about 1H 2012 losses considering they had access to the Annual Report like the rest of us.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#926 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:26:35 AM
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Nelly Data though now showing supply of 10000 at 15.65
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Aguytrying
#927 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:27:40 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
According to the laws of Kenya. a takeover price must be at least 30% higher than the price before suspension. 12.50*1.3= 16.25.

like many people have expressed here, the lifting of suspension co-inciding with profit warning could be a way of softening up investors to a lower strike price.

only a few more hours.
1) Ebu, tell me WHERE this 'law' is... Pap. Please include all the info possible so we can look this up to make our own interpretation.
2) If KK wanted the takeover price to be lower (using the 30% 'law') then why re-start trading? Previously, it was 12.50 but now 14.25 as the VWAP.


1. I could bet i found it in my research last month last month when cautionary was issued. Ive gone through the mergers and takeovers and its NOT there. Its vivid in my mind, though.
I expressed my uncertainty when i said "if someone else could corroborate this"
thanks for putting me to task.
The clossest ive got is in india where the law says the takeover price must be higher than the high and low average of the traded price of the previous week when the takeover was announced.

2. well the "law" if for when the takeover was first announced.

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youcan'tstopusnow
#928 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:30:33 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Supply now at 15.60 (the maximum for today is 15.65.) Like I said before, KK should make the announcement on Friday so we can milk this longersmile
Well, it seems 17/- is the minimum that Puma will offer based on Kestrel's report. So one more session before the price stagnates. Is it worth taking a risk on a higher buy-out price if you buy at 17/-?

BTW, based on Kestrel's 2nd report, they valued it at 20/-. It would be unlikely that Puma had not known about 1H 2012 losses considering they had access to the Annual Report like the rest of us.

VVS, 17 still offers a POTENTIAL 17% return if the price is 20 bob. Worth the risk for some. Better than KQ as you say in another thread;-)
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Aguytrying
#929 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:36:34 AM
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I dont think its worth the risk of 17.00 for someone already in the bus. For the ones not holding maybe, but quite speculative.
Looks like another 10%ter today, enjoy.

Does anyone think standards info saying "deal rumuored to be worth 42 billion shs" holds water.
Here's the link:
http://www.standardmedia...2000060528&pageNo=1
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mlennyma
#930 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:48:11 AM
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Where is tullow to confirm our oil is viable and fire kk to the sky
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Jamani
#931 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:55:09 AM
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its already firing....

BIDS 710,800
Quantity Price Splits Time
34,000 15.65 1 10:50:50
24,000 15.05 1 10:50:50
138,000 15.00 3 10:50:50
36,000 14.80 1 10:50:50
3,000 14.75 1 10:50:50
ASKS -
Quantity Price Splits Time
- - - -
- - - -
- - - -
- - - -
- - - -
TRADES
Quantity Price Time
37,200 15.65 10:50:49
2,800 15.65 10:50:49
10,000 15.65 10:49:33
20,000 15.65 10:47:50
3,000 15.65 10:47:50
VituVingiSana
#932 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:58:07 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Supply now at 15.60 (the maximum for today is 15.65.) Like I said before, KK should make the announcement on Friday so we can milk this longersmile
Well, it seems 17/- is the minimum that Puma will offer based on Kestrel's report. So one more session before the price stagnates. Is it worth taking a risk on a higher buy-out price if you buy at 17/-?

BTW, based on Kestrel's 2nd report, they valued it at 20/-. It would be unlikely that Puma had not known about 1H 2012 losses considering they had access to the Annual Report like the rest of us.

VVS, 17 still offers a POTENTIAL 17% return if the price is 20 bob. Worth the risk for some. Better than KQ as you say in another thread;-)
Yes, but the certainty of 20/- is much lower than 17/-. I venture there may be some local folks who can engineer a takeover of KK at 17/- to milk the value in the land & buildings.
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QW25091985
#933 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:58:37 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
According to the laws of Kenya. a takeover price must be at least 30% higher than the price before suspension. 12.50*1.3= 16.25.

like many people have expressed here, the lifting of suspension co-inciding with profit warning could be a way of softening up investors to a lower strike price.

only a few more hours.
1) Ebu, tell me WHERE this 'law' is... Pap. Please include all the info possible so we can look this up to make our own interpretation.
2) If KK wanted the takeover price to be lower (using the 30% 'law') then why re-start trading? Previously, it was 12.50 but now 14.25 as the VWAP.


1. I could bet i found it in my research last month last month when cautionary was issued. Ive gone through the mergers and takeovers and its NOT there. Its vivid in my mind, though.
I expressed my uncertainty when i said "if someone else could corroborate this"
thanks for putting me to task.
The clossest ive got is in india where the law says the takeover price must be higher than the high and low average of the traded price of the previous week when the takeover was announced.

2. well the "law" if for when the takeover was first announced.




LOL !Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly so this 'law' was a hoax ?
mlennyma
#934 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 10:58:42 AM
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It will possibly make 30% in 3days to tomorrow
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Hunderwear
#935 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 11:02:08 AM
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the deal wrote:
[quote=BGL]Takeover of KenolKobil on the rocks as workers move to court

http://www.standardmedia...s-workers-move-to-court[/quote]
$500mn just like in this blog post http://www.contrarianinv...ergy-to-buy-kenol-kobil woooow!!!


@Deal are you and the standard paper suggesting that puma could pay 28 bob per share?Anyway lisemwalo lipo na kama halipo laja.
VituVingiSana
#936 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 11:02:19 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Where is tullow to confirm our oil is viable and fire kk to the sky
KK is not in the exploration business.
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mlennyma
#937 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 11:05:07 AM
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As usual the gathering in this topic swells..are you guys negotiating the dowry or its a bitter farewell to a girlfriend who is flying to the u.s.a?
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mlennyma
#938 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 11:08:32 AM
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@vitu i know but oil at home will be very advantageous to well networked firms like kk
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VituVingiSana
#939 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 11:41:26 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
As usual the gathering in this topic swells..are you guys negotiating the dowry or its a bitter farewell to a girlfriend who is flying to the u.s.a?
LOL, lobola Applause Applause Applause
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Aguytrying
#940 Posted : Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:20 PM
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The last 2 trading days have been the best time of my investment life.
Watching KK gain 10% day in day out. exhilarating stuff!!
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