iko wapi hii mavuno church??

@ ngwono

you see ngwono,if i end up in the wrong place just because you were economical with the truth about the place,in Gods eyes,is it righteousness? if i 'got lost' would you justify your actions by the fact that you did not want to talk about bad things that you saw or experienced in Mavuno?


NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB

Never heard of it but from the description here its end time.love of money,immorality has become the norm.beware of devil worship in church

Do not judge me by my name.I'm a super star******

@Bills

what is 'church material'. The reason we are where we are as a society is because we have dichotomized our minds into 'church mode' and 'world mode'. We are holy and nice on sunday but cursing and bribing on Monday morning. Mavuno is a church that has decided,' lets not pretend that we are all holy in church'. We are trying to reach out to that generation that will only come to church if they think and feel its cool to be in church. We are reaching out to the world with the instruments avilable to us in this day and age. By the way,did you listen to the sermons?. Paul declares in the bible that he became all things to all men just for the sake of spreading the gospel. That brochure that you say should not be in church is the same one that brought someone to church,He/she heard the gospel and has been attending church since then. Mavuno is trying to be creative to bring into church those who would ordinarily not go to church because they believe you cant have fun in church. Yet the bible is quite clear that 'He came so we may have life and have it more abundantly.'

I know what I am saying when I say have life more abunduntly. I used to rave and have fun with my peers back then in campus..... until I got saved and discovered what real fun is.

Oh by the way,I think JC would print it if He thought it would bring a certain Kamau,Atieno or Kirui from the bar and into church



Rather than spending all your time reading about the future and trying to figure the nuances of what is it might hold,may be you should spend at least as much time getting to know Him better (David Jeremiah)

While the justification of the happenings at Mavuno is almost convincing,I still think we need to either redefine christainity or call a spade a spade. In chritianity,the end does not justify the means and so using the lady in the bronchure to draw a crowd is wrong and thelogically misplaced.

Some one coming to church usually is tired of the 'world' and is escaping,if he/she then find the what she was tired of being introduced in church...what a dissapoinment.


Rom 6:1-2


Rom 6:1

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2

By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?
God is not in desperate campaign but he seeks to open peoples to see that he who want to lose his life will gain it but he who want to gain will lose. Deny yourself...Thats was Jesus message.

- The apostle is very full in pressing the necessity of holiness. He does not explain away the free grace of the gospel,but he shows that connexion between justification and holiness are inseparable. Let the thought be abhorred,of continuing in sin that grace may abound. True believers are dead to sin,therefore they ought not to follow it. No man can at the same time be both dead and alive. He is a fool who,desiring to be dead unto sin,thinks he may live in it.

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