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PLEASE HELP ME,MPESA TIL CLOSED WITH 100K FLOAT!
seeker*
#1 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:58:56 AM
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PLEASE ANYONE IN WAZUA WHO CAN HELP.
I operate a line I bought from someone,today morning the til has been frozen after calling customer care they say the agent is under investigation.

When I go to safaricom they say they can't help because the til is not under my name and I am not an aggregate.I have to talk to my agent who is not picking my calls,I visit the office and its closed.

Even worse when I went to safaricom offices they have told me the money will be sent to the agents account "after investigations are complete".

If they send the money to the agent's bank account am at the agent's mercy for him to return my money to me.

NIFANYE NINI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!

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quicksand
#2 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:21:24 PM
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Waah! Makosa imefanyika. Safcom cant deal with you cause you dont exist in their records. Did you enter into a written agreement or contract of sorts with your agent regarding the line?
seeker*
#3 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:02:57 PM
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No, he gave the line and said he will pursue an aggregate arrangement for me, I bought the line 2months ago.
Don't fight a battle if you gain nothing by winning.” Erwin Rommel
When I was a child, I spoke like a child, thought like a child, and reasoned like a child. When I became an adult, I no longer used childish ways.
QW25091985
#4 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:05:58 PM
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let me get this straight . you paid with your hard earned money and never signed any agreement . and this is with a TOTAL stranger ? . wow
i mean you have no papers ? thats just unheard off.
wakenya na short cuts !!!!! i can write a book about it ...
panomaz
#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:29:55 PM
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QW25091985 wrote:
let me get this straight . you paid with your hard earned money and never signed any agreement . and this is with a TOTAL stranger ? . wow
i mean you have no papers ? thats just unheard off.
wakenya na short cuts !!!!! i can write a book about it ...


Makosa imefanyika.....you are not helping at all with your criticism
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murchr
#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:52:39 PM
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Tafuta the seller and go with him to safcom, and be wise
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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seeker*
#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:48:49 PM
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murchr wrote:
Tafuta the seller and go with him to safcom, and be wise


Seller has been found but very uncooperative.

Further investigations have revealed that safari com is investigating fraud by dealers for their corruption (KK) so they can get mpesa lines.

GOD what do I do? safaricom must have a way to address people like me. A 100k loss in one day yet you have not stolen from anyone.

Is there any lawyer who can suggest a way forward or someone with information on this?

@QW you don't know the pain I feel,Ave cried until I can't cry anymore.
Don't fight a battle if you gain nothing by winning.” Erwin Rommel
When I was a child, I spoke like a child, thought like a child, and reasoned like a child. When I became an adult, I no longer used childish ways.
murchr
#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:23:59 PM
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seeker* wrote:
murchr wrote:
Tafuta the seller and go with him to safcom, and be wise


Seller has been found but very uncooperative.

Further investigations have revealed that safari com is investigating fraud by dealers for their corruption (KK) so they can get mpesa lines.

GOD what do I do? safaricom must have a way to address people like me. A 100k loss in one day yet you have not stolen from anyone.

Is there any lawyer who can suggest a way forward or someone with information on this?

@QW you don't know the pain I feel,Ave cried until I can't cry anymore.


Pole but i insist if the line is under the sellers name convince him that he could be in trouble if he doesnt change the name to u....no one wants to be caught in some scam. Then ensure that u get the money from safcom
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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freiks
#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:06:49 PM
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slykat
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:18:15 AM
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QW25091985 wrote:
let me get this straight . you paid with your hard earned money and never signed any agreement . and this is with a TOTAL stranger ? . wow
i mean you have no papers ? thats just unheard off.
wakenya na short cuts !!!!! i can write a book about it ...



QW

You live in Utopia?

Most contracts worldwide are not written and do not have to be. That it is not written doesn't ipso facto mean there is no contract (there are a few legal exceptions).

There are many ways of proving there was an agreement. Just as long as the agreement is valid and legal. Granted, when written proving it might sometimes be easier but not always.

100K is a lot of money but maybe a relatively low amount to battle out over in court with lawyers;relative to the costs and duration of case. That is my opinion.

I agree with those advising you seek help from Safcom. Sometimes the police may help if you can show fraud or obtaining money by false pretences.

Otherwise, I feel your pain. It's horrible. All the best.

QW25091985
#11 Posted : Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:58:14 AM
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slykat wrote:
QW25091985 wrote:
let me get this straight . you paid with your hard earned money and never signed any agreement . and this is with a TOTAL stranger ? . wow
i mean you have no papers ? thats just unheard off.
wakenya na short cuts !!!!! i can write a book about it ...



QW

You live in Utopia?

Most contracts worldwide are not written and do not have to be. That it is not written doesn't ipso facto mean there is no contract (there are a few legal exceptions).

There are many ways of proving there was an agreement. Just as long as the agreement is valid and legal. Granted, when written proving it might sometimes be easier but not always.

100K is a lot of money but maybe a relatively low amount to battle out over in court with lawyers;relative to the costs and duration of case. That is my opinion.

I agree with those advising you seek help from Safcom. Sometimes the police may help if you can show fraud or obtaining money by false pretences.

Otherwise, I feel your pain. It's horrible. All the best.




even in marriage we sign a certificate . this guy (seeker*) is just plain reckless. i think he deserves to be scammed!
basically am scratching my head over this issue and donot even know how he's going to be helped !

does he atleast have a receipt to show he bought the line ? ifnot then case closed and 100k gone pap!
and am also wondering if he has all the requirements of having a mpsea till whynt just get the mpesa line from safcom ?
theking
#12 Posted : Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:19:28 AM
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as someone put it,safcom does not know u. if money is to be refunded,it'll b credited in the agents account. u just have to follow up wt the agent by urself,mayb thro ruthless debt collectors or cops. at a fee of course. u shd have formalized the agreement sooner esp havn bn dealn wt a stranger
seeker*
#13 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:10:38 PM
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To all those who replied thank you for your input. God bless victor of safaricom mpesa dept. who worked out this issue for me and I was refunded my money.
To anyone aspiring to have mpesa business,make sure you are made an aggregator!
Don't fight a battle if you gain nothing by winning.” Erwin Rommel
When I was a child, I spoke like a child, thought like a child, and reasoned like a child. When I became an adult, I no longer used childish ways.
snugloans
#14 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 4:44:22 PM
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Elder
#15 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:24:48 AM
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seeker* wrote:
To all those who replied thank you for your input. God bless victor of safaricom mpesa dept. who worked out this issue for me and I was refunded my money.
To anyone aspiring to have mpesa business,make sure you are made an aggregator!

Just seen this thread now. Pole. Glad it worked out for you.
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King G
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:54:48 PM
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You must be one lucky chap. You lost the job and almost lost 100k. Be greateful to God.
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QW25091985
#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:08:02 PM
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King G wrote:
You must be one lucky chap. You lost the job and almost lost 100k. Be greateful to God.



lucky or careless ? lol
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