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Why would a minister's son commit suicide?
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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i dont think Githae is that rich. nope what does he own? if i remember well that guy just emerged from Ndeiya the other day and you all know about Ndeiya. I would only assume drugs and fangi led to this suicide. Maybe the boy was not receiving the attention he needed from parents and decided to teach them a lesson (of course that was fangi deciding) i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: User Joined: 5/3/2011 Posts: 559
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YesuWangu wrote:mkeiyd wrote:Drunkard wrote:2012 wrote:To be honest I've just been wondering what could have been disturbing that young man. Was it girls? High expectations? Drugs? Just what would make the son of the man who controls the country's budget commit while the kids of the poor are going strong? I live in 26th floor apartment overlooking a beautiful park, I have a job and I don't worry about my bills, I have a nice car, health insurance, dental, life and retirement plan, to someone else, I seem to have it all. However, I sleep less than 5 hrs a day almost everyday, 60% of the time I struggle to fall a sleep, I could be in bed for hours with absolutely no sleep.Over the weekends I can look down my apartment and see seemingly happy guys, obviously broke but playing basketball and having fun like nothing matters, sometime I wish I could just live freely but I can't. The point is happiness is not a function of wealth, poor people are as happy as rich people, infact poor people could possibly be happier than rich people, imagine if you didn't go to school and you lived in forest, you wouldn't even know how good life is suppose to be, you wouldn't even care about cars, nice cloths, status, traffic, career, homework, you would just be landing and eating! Obviously, I can read people's status from the comment, to this kid wealth wasn't a factor in his happiness, he had the wealth so he didn't consider wealth as a privilage, but to someone else who is not wealthy, they would think wealth could make him happier no! @Drunkard, well put. It's lonely at the top. You are right. The guys playing basket ball and having fun are on the ground. I think someone on the 26th floor who has urges to live freely, should be in a suicide watch list. ..... he is not a bird with wings you know. Hey.. I will never consider ever harming myself, I love my life and my livelyhood because of a couple of reasons. 1) I believe that some people are meant to go out there and find answers and make live better for everyone and some are meant to be broke for life and it is hard to switch positions. 2) Getting up every day and sleep few hours in part of my sacrifies in order to stay ahead, I get rewarded in other ways. 3) I believe that my struggles with sleep indicate that I care about what I do and it worries me at night if I don't meet my expection and thats what has made me get where I am, if I start falling a sleep I could fall off the 26th floor. 4) I believe that the worst and the most embarrasing thing in life in to die poor, I even think there will be no heaven for the poor because God will most likely be mad at you when you get there.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,586
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2007 Posts: 709
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Someone commits suicide when he wrongly thinks he has reached the end of the road. Whilst lacking someone to talk to.
Its such a sad thing especially to parents. That's why its vital to bring up your child knowing God so that they understand no matter what God is always holding their hand
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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faa wrote:Someone commits suicide when he wrongly thinks he has reached the end of the road. Whilst lacking someone to talk to.
Its such a sad thing especially to parents. That's why its vital to bring up your child knowing God so that they understand no matter what God is always holding their hand
lemmie bring this to your attention. When a person reaches suicidal levels,he is at a place where he feels forgotten even by God himself.His senses are dull and his spirit has given up on hope because God is nowhere to be seen.He feels sorrounded by darkness and despair.The person needs practical and immediate solutions first and fast to curtail these thoughts, not hope. Talk is cheap.Very cheap. We all make the mistake of giving depressed people talk and more talk,when in reality what they want is something real,quick and tangible. We fail to realise that suicidal thoughts increase with pressure & the sooner we learn how to ease that, the better things will be. Picture a guy out in the cold,forsaken by all his friends,judged harshly by family,tired and all you tell him is 'dont you worry,God is holding your hands.'I will pray for you' then off you go to your comfort zone. Or like in this particular case,the young man is asking himself 'why' questions with no answers forthcoming.I mean he is all alone and the devil will minister properly.Never leave them alone in such a state and assume you will see them tomorrow. Try as much as possible to engage them by keeping them busy cz a distraction in time can save one.Immediate answers help to derail the thoughts Thereafter you can bring in a permanent solution. Finally, The word 'Hope' doesn't always ring a bell in a suicidal person so do not even keep bringing it up..They are at their end,see and hear nothing except walls,noise and darkness. I don't know why we always assume that we know what is best for them cz we don't and that is why it's important to listen more and talk less. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/26/2007 Posts: 118
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essyk wrote:faa wrote:Someone commits suicide when he wrongly thinks he has reached the end of the road. Whilst lacking someone to talk to.
Its such a sad thing especially to parents. That's why its vital to bring up your child knowing God so that they understand no matter what God is always holding their hand
lemmie bring this to your attention. When a person reaches suicidal levels,he is at a place where he feels forgotten even by God himself.His senses are dull and his spirit has given up on hope because God is nowhere to be seen.He feels sorrounded by darkness and despair.The person needs practical and immediate solutions first and fast to curtail these thoughts, not hope. Talk is cheap.Very cheap. We all make the mistake of giving depressed people talk and more talk,when in reality what they want is something real,quick and tangible. We fail to realise that suicidal thoughts increase with pressure & the sooner we learn how to ease that, the better things will be. Picture a guy out in the cold,forsaken by all his friends,judged harshly by family,tired and all you tell him is 'dont you worry,God is holding your hands.'I will pray for you' then off you go to your comfort zone. Or like in this particular case,the young man is asking himself 'why' questions with no answers forthcoming.I mean he is all alone and the devil will minister properly.Never leave them alone in such a state and assume you will see them tomorrow. Try as much as possible to engage them by keeping them busy,A distraction in time can save one. The word 'Hope' doesn't always ring a bell in a suicidal person so do not even keep bringing it up..They are always at their end and see nothing except walls and darkness. I don't know why we always assume that we know what is best for them cz we don't and that is why it's important to listen more and talk less. Its good to look for immediate answers to quickly derail the thoughts then slowly bring in a permanent solution after they have cooled. Don't be too proud and busy to listen and help. I get you..... However I among of those heartless people who believe there is nothing about suicide. Every morning I find a reason to be thankful even though I am not happy. Sometimes, you live for the beer that you can finally buy at end month but most of the time I live to get back at all the problems and people who have caused them. Before anyone commits suicide, have they really fought all the battles? Yes sometimes I do not want to see another day then I remember that smile on a friend I hate. Just before I go, they need to know I never really liked them.... Two weeks ago, I wanted to die coz I had no money then i remembered someone who owes me money. I was going to die, alright but i decided that I would die in his house and I would have to leave my family with him. So at 6am I was knocking his door ( I wanted to die by 8am) and after explaining my mission, we decided to have lunch. Suddenly I did not want to die ( And leave all the chicken in Galitos????NO!!) All am trying to say is, if someone cannot even think of one last fight, they cannot live anymore. I like it when a friend tells me they want to die because they have no food, no job etc. You can give this person food and help them get a job.As for the person who has no value for is own life, kabisa, let go and forget. You don't have to live for anything...i guess people have complicated their lives so much that even when they have enough food they want more. In fact, there is no more.... even if you have billions, there is ony so much you can eat. If guys on deathrow are living and fighting, who are you to end your life. Maybe the government should start an exchange program for guys who want to die ad execute them instead. Give life to the guy who needs it. Thats my two UG cents Give Away FREE Reports and Affiliate Tools.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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new investor wrote:
Before anyone commits suicide, have they really fought all the battles? Yes sometimes I do not want to see another day then I remember that smile on a friend I hate. Just before I go, they need to know I never really liked them....
All am trying to say is, if someone cannot even think of one last fight, they cannot live anymore. I like it when a friend tells me they want to die because they have no food, no job etc. You can give this person food and help them get a job.As for the person who has no value for is own life, kabisa, let go and forget.
Thats my two UG cents
You got a point there you know. Suicide is just the end result of extreme depression,unsolved issues/mysteries. What makes it extreme is bcz many people are too proud,busy and quick to dismiss you as a nuisance. We only realise this after they are gone. It gets heavier on those who have never fought any battle & overcome them, because past won battles tend to give one the strength to face and overcome new ones.So we shouldn't assume that everybody is strong enough to stand pressure because not everyone that kills himself has faced it before We have seen KCPE failures committ suicide. A std 5 boy in R.Valley committed suicide after he was forced to repeat class. Will you say they hated their lives? What other battles should a 10 year old fight and exhaust first before we condemn him for not trying? Do they even know what life is when they haven't lived it? IMO,Yes they do.We have forced them to believe that life is a formula.They fail and they are good for nothing.They compare themselves and feel rejected by this same society trying to bring them up.Now that is their little understanding of life so it's not worth living. You still blame them for hating it? Pressure to excel,demands by the society,Peer pressure all these without help and one is likely to end up the same way. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Suicide? What is the source of the suicide theory? His daddy called him Central Bank. Daddy is the Minister for Finance.
He is (was) a student in Computer Science. Daddy is the Minister for Finance and a lawyer to boot.
Crime has gone high tech. Daddy had to stop this financial crime but did not have the computing knowledge to stop them.
The vultures, the fat cats and the faceless ones knew that the only way Daddy to could stop them was with the help of the only computer wizard he could trust. Who would he trust more than the "Central Bank"?
The wizard had to go.Citizens who love Ludlum, impress me with your version. Suicide! My foot.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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mmh! 7 yrs ago we found him hanging inside his neat room. Feet on floor infact slanting,peaceful and calm.No suicidal note no signs of commotion. Had to call & shake him up to prove that he was no more. Thought it was one of his usual jokes They said it was suicide but I refused to believe it. I did my jicho pevu to find out the truth.And truth I found. Murder it was. Today would have been his 34th birthday. That's how bad things can get. out of thread. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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