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KENOL KOBIL .... 2012
Jamani
#641 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 8:41:52 AM
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VituVingiSana
#642 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 5:53:24 PM
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NOCK copying KK

http://www.businessdaily...4/-/t8jh14/-/index.html

I think KK will continue beating NOCK in the sales game i.e. the products being pushed through.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
youcan'tstopusnow
#643 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:25:45 AM
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Is PUMA the only 'strategic investor' interested in KK?
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VituVingiSana
#644 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 11:31:10 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Is PUMA the only 'strategic investor' interested in KK?
I hope not Pray Pray Pray
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Cde Monomotapa
#645 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:27:29 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Is PUMA the only 'strategic investor' interested in KK?

Dividend?
youcan'tstopusnow
#646 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:38:45 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Is PUMA the only 'strategic investor' interested in KK?

Dividend?

Bado! Ama PUMA wataongeza juu ya the buying price? Hehe.
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Cde Monomotapa
#647 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:40:53 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Is PUMA the only 'strategic investor' interested in KK?

Dividend?

Bado! Ama PUMA wataongeza juu ya the buying price? Hehe.

Not yet either. I see you're becoming a politician...
Jamani
#648 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:23:23 PM
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Kwani what happened to your dividends are you on the register? ama iko rigging.... mine went through long time..
Cde Monomotapa
#649 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:34:56 PM
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Jamani wrote:
Kwani what happened to your dividends are you on the register? ama iko rigging.... mine went through long time..

Labda ni economic sanctions! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly enyewe... I am baffled tu sana.
BGL
#650 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:23:09 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Jamani wrote:
Kwani what happened to your dividends are you on the register? ama iko rigging.... mine went through long time..

Labda ni economic sanctions! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly enyewe... I am baffled tu sana.


Hata mimi no dividend yet!!
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Aguytrying
#651 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:59:21 PM
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I have recieved my divided cheque today. dated 15/5/2012.

mtapata tu.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#652 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:19:58 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
I have recieved my divided cheque today. dated 15/5/2012.

mtapata tu.

Watu wa cheque hawana shida. Hao walipata. EFT ndio kuna problem
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Aguytrying
#653 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:08:13 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
I have recieved my divided cheque today. dated 15/5/2012.

mtapata tu.

Watu wa cheque hawana shida. Hao walipata. EFT ndio kuna problem


Maybe major shareholders smile (you guys)wana sortiwa after the deal is done.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#654 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:15:17 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:

Maybe major shareholders smile (you guys)wana sortiwa after the deal is done.

Laughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudly
Must be!
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youcan'tstopusnow
#655 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:45:16 AM
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Anonymous: coldtusker, why would you want to sell this excellent company at 'only' a PE of 10? I would consider a price of 30 more 'fair'

coldtusker: What a seller wants from a buyer is often a subject of market forces. Or not.
Anyway, yes, the sellers
would prefer 30/- vs 24/- but it has to make financial sense for Puma to pay 20% more than my (generous) estimate.
My estimate is:
-> 90% above the last traded price
-> Higher than the NAV/
share as I estimated it
-> 10x PER based on today's
'depressed' NSE
-> Includes a win vs KPC for KES 6bn

Adapted from http://www.coldtusker.blogspot.com

If anyone so wishes, they can indicate their thoughts on the proposed takeover at kenkob@
kenkob.co.ke

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Jamani
#656 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:02:06 PM
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http://www.businessdaily...-/123r7ulz/-/index.html

The current talk in town is about KenolKobil owners selling out to Puma Energy. Why are the main shareholders selling what appears to be a very profitable business?

Of course, only the owners can explain this better. However, since the “real owners” are not publicly known, or directly accessible to explain, I will hazard an informed guess as to why the owners maybe selling....

Hurriedly merged

The not very obvious process of offloading ownership of KenolKobil appears to have started playing out in 2008.

This is the year when Kobil “relocated” from its registered domicile in the State of Delaware in USA and registered in Kenya.

Kobil was then hurriedly merged with Kenol and shares of the joint company KenolKobil offered to Kenyans in the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE).

This, according to me, was the first step of offloading ownership. This was immediately followed by a flurry of media activity to promote the value of KenolKobil. This was accompanied by accelerated and over-publicised regional asset acquisitions which further increased perceived strategic value of the company at the NSE.

All this was happening as the political clout that KenolKobil apparently relied on for many years was evidently fast waning due to changed political landscape.

This was also when multi-billion shilling court cases between KenolKobil and government oil companies were in high gear. Some of these cases are yet to be concluded.

The Energy ministry was also playing no-nonsense with KenolKobil. The familiar playing field was fast shifting and business environment was becoming more uncertain for the company.
People familiar with the history of KenolKobil’s rapid emergence and growth in the 1980s will mostly agree with me that it was surrounded with suspicions.
They will also likely agree that this may be the opportune time for the owners to fully offload the company’s history to new foreign owners.

All said and done KenolKobil stands out as a first-class marketer. They have managed to turn out good profits in an environment where its peers are complaining of a market skewed by price controls.

It has correctly pursued opportunities and aggressively gone for a sizeable and profitable market share.
sparkly
#657 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:28:20 PM
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@Jamani that article is not reporting anything new, SMH...
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youcan'tstopusnow
#658 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:03:51 PM
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Cde, EFT to be effected on Monday 28th. Don't bet your life on it though...
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VituVingiSana
#659 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:29:46 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Cde, EFT to be effected on Monday 28th. Don't bet your life on it though...
Huh? Folks I know have received their payments...
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BGL
#660 Posted : Monday, May 28, 2012 10:18:05 PM
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EFT iko wapi? Infact its no different from last time when we had to wait for weeks!
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