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coop bank Q1 2012 results
ngapat
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:07:22 AM
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Q1 PAT rises to
KES1.96B vs KES1.64B;
loanbook KES113B vs
KES91B; Deposits KES145B vs
KES135B
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hisah
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:14:54 AM
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Loan expansion is 22B (24% growth) compared to last year. I am still wondering how KE banks are pushing loans at 20% plus lending rates! This is madness.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:44:04 AM
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hisah wrote:
Loan expansion is 22B (24% growth) compared to last year. I am still wondering how KE banks are pushing loans at 20% plus lending rates! This is madness.

what about SACCOs lending at 17 pc?!
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#4 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:49:18 AM
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hisah wrote:
Loan expansion is 22B (24% growth) compared to last year. I am still wondering how KE banks are pushing loans at 20% plus lending rates! This is madness.

...madness. But good for investors! What's wrong with nelly data? LIMTEA is top gainer at 451?
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Kausha
#5 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:05:59 PM
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Looks like a lot of lending was done in Q2 & Q3 of 2011 before the CBK woke up to inflation. What's more telling is the slow down in Q4 of 2011 into Q1 of 2012.

The CBR does appear to be responsible for the most of the growth banks reported in Q1 of 2012. It appears it's mwananchi bearing the full burden of the CBR as opposed to the everyone (bank, gover and citizen). Co-op's growth is from jerking up the lending rates on helpless customers with loans to be serviced. Only in Africa do you get the average interest income earned rate rising up from 13% to 20% within 3 months and life goes on as usual let alone this being a third world country where every extra coin matters a whole lot.

What's also telling is the heat banks are feeling on the deposit end of things suggesting that CBR could be hitting harder than intended. the average cost of deposits for Co-op has jumped from 2.3% in Q4 to 6.5% in Q1 and from 1.7% from a year ago. This can only mean Co-op is struggling to raise deposits which could also mean there is a huge chinck and ask on the strategy to keep opening branches...6.5% is what NIC and CBA should be paying for deposits coz of the strategy they are running.

Strangely though what has left me wondering as to the level of upishi/ quality of results is how you can raise average lending rates from 13% to 20% and in return the book at risk remains at 4.1% from 1 year ago while provisions also remain at 0.9% of the gross book as they were 1 year ago. Who is fooling who here and surely why should we believe auditors and their work?
Fyatu
#6 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:45:19 PM
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Applause
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Fyatu
#7 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:47:00 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/w...z7r0&feature=relmfu
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gatoho
#8 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:31:34 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7m7ifUz7r0&feature=relmfu



Wow, guy saw Kodaks demise
Foresight..
dave.kim
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:05:47 PM
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With the high interest rates, SACCOs have become the popular financiers for borrowing because of lower interest (18% or below). Some people are even buying off their bank loans with SACCO loans!! I think Co-op will benefit highly from this with their FOSA/Sacco Link product. In lay man's terms, FOSA (Front Office Service Activity) facilitates SACCOs to provide retail banking services to their customers and Co-op handles the money. So customers can access their accounts through Co-op ATMS with the use of SACCO link cards....
Does anyone else share my sentiments?
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dave.kim
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:08:13 PM
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And the point above is the reason(together with its price/sales being the lowest) i bought it instead of the other financials.
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Fyatu
#11 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:50:52 PM
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dave.kim wrote:
And the point above is the reason(together with its price/sales being the lowest) i bought it instead of the other financials.



here is another reason

http://www.goss-online.o...t-and-Cooperatives.html

Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Fyatu
#12 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:54:02 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
dave.kim wrote:
And the point above is the reason(together with its price/sales being the lowest) i bought it instead of the other financials.



here is another reason

http://www.goss-online.o...t-and-Cooperatives.html




The first branch in SS will open sometime in October 2012

http://af.reuters.com/ar...s/idAFL5E8E80UR20120308

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dave.kim
#13 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:24:41 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
dave.kim wrote:
And the point above is the reason(together with its price/sales being the lowest) i bought it instead of the other financials.



here is another reason

http://www.goss-online.o...t-and-Cooperatives.html


@Fyatu the link wont open. What was the story?....and the plan to open 30 branches may not be a good idea unless its agency branches.
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Fyatu
#14 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:38:04 PM
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dave.kim wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
dave.kim wrote:
And the point above is the reason(together with its price/sales being the lowest) i bought it instead of the other financials.



here is another reason

http://www.goss-online.o...t-and-Cooperatives.html


@Fyatu the link wont open. What was the story?....and the plan to open 30 branches may not be a good idea unless its agency branches.


try it again

http://www.goss-online.o...nt-and-Cooperatives.html
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
Fyatu
#15 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:41:39 PM
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as we speak 5 branches are already open. A friend of mine confided in me that a month prior to the opening of the Branch....a herd of people were always seen registering for accounts in the makeshift office under a mango tree...

I'm told the branch is now open and is now competing with memba in the same breadth
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Fyatu
#16 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:44:28 PM
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dave.kim wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
dave.kim wrote:
And the point above is the reason(together with its price/sales being the lowest) i bought it instead of the other financials.



here is another reason

http://www.goss-online.o...t-and-Cooperatives.html


@Fyatu the link wont open. What was the story?....and the plan to open 30 branches may not be a good idea unless its agency branches.



If the link doesn't open, open this one and scroll down to co-operatives.,,....Prest ctrl + F and time coopertaives
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
maligumu
#17 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:46:53 PM
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The fundamentalist and Techs in Wazua what are the prospects for this stock . Given that they are giving a bonus of 1 to 5 . And what became of the rights issue thing .
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dave.kim
#18 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:51:15 PM
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the link opened and i checked it out.that said,am sitting tight with my shares smile
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Mastermind
#19 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:51:55 PM
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... Btw what happened to the rights issues?
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#20 Posted : Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:13:02 PM
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Mastermind wrote:
... Btw what happened to the rights issues?

Probably bonus will raise enough cash.
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