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QW25091985
#91 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:44:16 AM
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Wow ! Thats a very poor start. It just closed .23 cents up after all the hype .
digitek1
#92 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 9:41:40 AM
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the underwritters jpmorganchase struggled the whole day to keep the thing afloat above $38 otherwise it would have britanked. lets see how much longer it can be propped
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
kyt
#93 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:44:32 PM
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the thing was saved by the bell!!
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QW25091985
#94 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:53:09 PM
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kyt wrote:
the thing was saved by the bell!!



Or the multiple glitches or the frenzied buying from underwriters. This thing was just doomd to fail.
How do you invest in a fad !
hisah
#95 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:02:16 AM
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digitek1 wrote:
the underwritters jpmorganchase struggled the whole day to keep the thing afloat above $38 otherwise it would have britanked. lets see how much longer it can be propped

Morgan stanley being the largest underwriter tried all they could all day to stick save the situation. Such a horrible PPT job this was.

http://mobile.reuters.co...84I01620120519?irpc=932

Anyone remember the mpesa bank IPO hype? Any remember Morgan Stanley as its book builder? Anyone remember how that stock performed in 12 weeks time? Once again, keep off this thing. Looking at the social media stocks performance also says a lot about where FB will find itself - murky waters to say the least.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#96 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 7:05:38 AM
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NASDAQ tries to explain why this IPO failed to launch.

http://mobile.bloomberg....re-delayed-facebook.html
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hisah
#97 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 3:12:40 PM
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hisah wrote:
As it happened in euroland - pre market...


Read it here in German - http://www.mmnews.de/ind...erste-kurse-bei-65-euro

FB continues to bleed in euroland. At this rate it will test below IPO price today. Underwriters have a tough call here for their PPT control.

A lot of monkeys will be left bouncing around.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Rollout
#98 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 4:28:47 PM
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Nabwire wrote:
Drunkard wrote:
guru267 wrote:
[quote=kyt]this will flop big time,how can this site be more valued than cocacola?


Value has nothing to do with it..

Reasons why FB will rise:
1. The market was expecting it to be valued at 100billion and now its being valued at 74billion for the IPO ..
2. Even with a high valuation it is still cheaper than majority of its social media peers
3. There is still hype and speculation about future prospects of the company..
4. The relatively low share price makes it available to the whole market



Similarities between Facebook IPO and Safaricom IPO
1.Even with a high valuation it is still cheaper than majority of most recent IPOs
2.There is still hype and speculation about the future prices.
3. The relatively low share price makes it available to the whole markets


From the above similaries one can draw a wider conclusions about the prospect of the company price after the IPOs

First like Safaricom there is alot of publicity sorounding the IPO, this publicity is good for a smart investor and bad for dummies, Facebook have no incentive to underprice the IPO infact they have the incentive to Overprice it just like Safaricom.

Seconding, there are alot of questions about the real value of advertising through facebook and if anyone follows Wallstreet journal, you've probably read about it, so if you combined the known knowledge that Facebook might not meet it's future revenue targets with the publicity sorounding the IPO, you get a situation where the price will jump up during the first 3-5 days of trading driven by the hypes followed by by a 15-25% drop as the speculators and the smart investor sell their shares. My best advice is sell before 1pm Thurday the first week of trading.

Good luck



like I said, I will be shorting facebook stock the whole week while going long on call options to cover myself, as I wait for end of the week to deliver Facebook stock at 15% below, I will also be going long on 60 day JP Morgan futures index expecting JP to take a large portion of loses from their derivative Hedging in the second quarter. Otherwise I will be smoking pot this weekend and making rounds in tit bars... God Bless Facebook.
hisah
#99 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 4:45:22 PM
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@Rollout - what is your short target? $20. Me thinks this thing should go sub $10. I don't see its value at all...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Thiong'o
#100 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 4:59:52 PM
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Is it worth it?

The $100 billion question on everyone's minds is whether Facebook can live up to its lofty valuation and triple-digit P/E. Even though Facebook has generated less than $1 billion in net income over the past four quarters, it has a massive user base that shouldn't be taken lightly.

All Facebook needs to do is figure out how to better monetize all those Facebookers who are hooked on "liking" and commenting on the site.

http://www.fool.com/inve...?source=ihpsitth0000001
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