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the deal
#241 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 9:36:37 AM
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hisah wrote:
@deal - Are you counting the waves... Wave 5 likely to test 3900 - 4000 around August - Sept 2012 then the cool off till 2013 after the elections.


I wish you labelled those waves for the blind to see...I'm currently loading Insurance stocks...from PAI...JUB...CFCI....if you can't beat the market buy an insurance stock!!!
dave.kim
#242 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:26:08 PM
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the deal wrote:
hisah wrote:
@deal - Are you counting the waves... Wave 5 likely to test 3900 - 4000 around August - Sept 2012 then the cool off till 2013 after the elections.


I wish you labelled those waves for the blind to see...I'm currently loading Insurance stocks...from PAI...JUB...CFCI....if you can't beat the market buy an insurance stock!!!

And that wave 5 might be reaching point D of the ABCD correction on the 10 year chart.Once it hits 3800 i will be looking to get out of short term holdings

Rule No.1 is never lose money. Rule No.2 is never forget rule number one
the deal
#243 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:17:44 PM
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dave.kim wrote:
the deal wrote:
hisah wrote:
@deal - Are you counting the waves... Wave 5 likely to test 3900 - 4000 around August - Sept 2012 then the cool off till 2013 after the elections.


I wish you labelled those waves for the blind to see...I'm currently loading Insurance stocks...from PAI...JUB...CFCI....if you can't beat the market buy an insurance stock!!!

And that wave 5 might be reaching point D of the ABCD correction on the 10 year chart.Once it hits 3800 i will be looking to get out of short term holdings


If you look at the 5 Year chart you will see a W shaped pattern which points to 4000-4500...this could be one of the biggest bull runs to happen at the NSE....
ChessMaster
#244 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:32:07 PM
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All I'm seeing is foreign investors moving the market while the fundamentals of the months ahead are looking horrible. Unemployment rate, inflation and interest rates are on the rise and to add to it we're in an election year. Foreign investors manipulate local investors to think that nse is picking up and make a profit of them before the true bear run begins. At the end of the day its a fools game.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
mlennyma
#245 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:54:10 PM
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You empty talk,empty talk,domo domo and we have made 100% and exited.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
mwekez@ji
#246 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:03:20 PM
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guru267 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Election year = higher money supply = higher inflation = higher interest rates = slow economic growth = slow nse performance


And who wrote this rule??

Higher money supply is the basis of this argument and yet I am personally not aware of any printing of money by CBK specifically for the general election so its not clear where the increase in money supply comes from in your rule..


We have a 1.4T election year budget and politicians also have their huge budgets for their election.

Watch as it unfolds!

kyt
#247 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:10:32 PM
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@guru, kindly provide the nse20 indices for 92,97,02,07. jan and dec and we compare the trend.
LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
ChessMaster
#248 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:40:18 PM
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Election years are also the years of car, land and other high values frauds. But don't get me wrong my portfolio is doing great just like yours and the bull run will last a while but u cant fight the fundamentals.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
Aguytrying
#249 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:16:49 PM
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This market rally is great. it may enable me to sell shares i bought expensive and buy them later at a lower price.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#250 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:37:52 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
All I'm seeing is foreign investors moving the market while the fundamentals of the months ahead are looking horrible. Unemployment rate, inflation and interest rates are on the rise and to add to it we're in an election year. Foreign investors manipulate local investors to think that nse is picking up and make a profit of them before the true bear run begins. At the end of the day its a fools game.

Sounds like you wrote this in November last year only for you to post today!
@SufficientlyP
hisah
#251 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 5:10:14 PM
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the deal wrote:
hisah wrote:
@deal - Are you counting the waves... Wave 5 likely to test 3900 - 4000 around August - Sept 2012 then the cool off till 2013 after the elections.


I wish you labelled those waves for the blind to see...I'm currently loading Insurance stocks...from PAI...JUB...CFCI....if you can't beat the market buy an insurance stock!!!




I can also spot your 5-yr observation. But to get beyond 4000 and test 4500 we need everyone in, not just foreigners. At the same time fundamentals must change overnight. How, I don't know... d'oh!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
the deal
#252 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 8:37:06 PM
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@Hisah the NSE and the Shilling never move in one direction...the Shilling can't go to 100 and the NSE still goes to 4500...at this point I throw away the charts and start listening to fundamentals....
hisah
#253 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 11:10:09 PM
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the deal wrote:
@Hisah the NSE and the Shilling never move in one direction...the Shilling can't go to 100 and the NSE still goes to 4500...at this point I throw away the charts and start listening to fundamentals....

That's why I'm not excited about the rally. Either NSE goes up or the USDKES, but not both. And since the latter is likely to move up harder than NSE, I chose to stay sidelined. The KE fundamentals are still smolding. And mixed with euroland circus, that's one spiky cocktail.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mwekez@ji
#254 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:21:14 AM
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In the meantime

NSE has breached the 3700 mark to stand at 3,708.88. Has gained in nine straight trading sessions!!!
mwekez@ji
#255 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:28:34 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Effective 1st June, KCB KE lowers base rate to 22% & KCB S&L (KE) to 19%.


MPC meets in a fortnight. I doubt whether they will try such a stunt now that KES is already weakening
guru267
#256 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:46:56 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
MPC meets in a fortnight. I doubt whether they will try such a stunt now that KES is already weakening


If the shilling weakens above 95 with the CBR still @ 18% we will be in financial armagedon!!!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
youcan'tstopusnow
#257 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:40:11 PM
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Some of this South African cash is bound to find its way into Kenya soon

http://www.dailytimes.co...m-ecobank-transnational
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Cde Monomotapa
#258 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:02:42 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Some of this South African cash is bound to find its way into Kenya soon

http://www.dailytimes.co...m-ecobank-transnational

#NBK
youcan'tstopusnow
#259 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:14:08 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Some of this South African cash is bound to find its way into Kenya soon

http://www.dailytimes.co...m-ecobank-transnational

#NBK

As you now appear to be on an NBK crusade, you are mandated to come up with a catch phrase for the said investnent ala KEKE! and LOAR!
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Cde Monomotapa
#260 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:22:04 PM
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Since it is another SA capital expectation...then Vuvuzela!!
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