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NSE BUS LEAVING THE STAGE
Jamani
#161 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:54:32 PM
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Iko chida
Jamani
#162 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:58:58 PM
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as @the deal put it Vavooooooooom --->3700......... computer is seeing stars mpaka ika zubaa
the deal
#163 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:33:50 PM
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the deal wrote:
Vavooooooooom --->3700.........Applause Applause Applause

If we take out 3700...then 4000 is a possibility...
VituVingiSana
#164 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:37:55 PM
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the deal wrote:
the deal wrote:
Vavooooooooom --->3700.........Applause Applause Applause

If we take out 3700...then 4000 is a possibility...
To get to 4,000 you have to pass through 3,700. Your quote "If we take out 3700...then 4000 is a possibility..." means nothing like those astrologists!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#165 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:33:50 AM
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We are in BULL MARKET....you can take that to the astrologists or the bank...in a Bull market all stocks rally...so which ever stock you buy now will rally....
VituVingiSana
#166 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:35:05 AM
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the deal wrote:
We are in BULL MARKET....you can take that to the astrologists or the bank...in a Bull market all stocks rally...so which ever stock you buy now will rally....

Well, what u said was if it goes through 3,700 then it possibly goes to 4,000...

Which means if it goes through 3,700, it may or may not ("possibly") go to 4,000. So what's the difference between that & astrology?

Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
jerry
#167 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:40:39 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
We are in BULL MARKET....you can take that to the astrologists or the bank...in a Bull market all stocks rally...so which ever stock you buy now will rally....

Well, what u said was if it goes through 3,700 then it possibly goes to 4,000...

Which means if it goes through 3,700, it may or may not ("possibly") go to 4,000. So what's the difference between that & astrology?


Reading the stars or charts is all the same!
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itz
#168 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:32:48 PM
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funny how people are getting bullish after a 12%+ NSE move.mentality of the herd.time to buy was 500 points lower.macro economic enviroment in kenya today is horrible and future earnings will be depressed.u will have another shot at the lows
mlennyma
#169 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:47:51 PM
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Its quite insensible to imply the nse has returned 12% when some counters are nearing 200% gain...i stopped judging the market as a whole but instead i concentrate on the counter iam interested in.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
BGL
#170 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:47:47 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Its quite insensible to imply the nse has returned 12% when some counters are nearing 200% gain...i stopped judging the market as a whole but instead i concentrate on the counter iam interested in.


Not all shares WERE going up! A few were on reverse gear. If you look at KPLC, it has lost 15% from jan 01, 2012 to date and a few others.

To date NSE 20 is up 14.73% while NSE all is up 17.46%.
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QW25091985
#171 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:22:19 PM
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jerry wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
We are in BULL MARKET....you can take that to the astrologists or the bank...in a Bull market all stocks rally...so which ever stock you buy now will rally....

Well, what u said was if it goes through 3,700 then it possibly goes to 4,000...

Which means if it goes through 3,700, it may or may not ("possibly") go to 4,000. So what's the difference between that & astrology?


Reading the stars or charts is all the same!


the charts clearly saw the bottom coming . what did your mganga see ?
mwekez@ji
#172 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2012 5:22:25 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#173 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2012 5:55:50 PM
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How fast we've gotten to 3,700pts. This was Ally Satchu's year 2012 closing figure.
While im happy, so happy at the rally, one has to sit back and ask themselves; where do we go from here?
Over to the chartists @Hisah,@Deal and @QW....comments please...
@SufficientlyP
hisah
#174 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2012 7:21:34 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
How fast we've gotten to 3,700pts. This was Ally Satchu's year 2012 closing figure.
While im happy, so happy at the rally, one has to sit back and ask themselves; where do we go from here?
Over to the chartists @Hisah,@Deal and @QW....comments please...



I thought cartoons (aka charts) were no longer appreciated...

On 21/05/2012 the NSE20 closed @3708. Today it has closed @3704. However, I am not excited on a technical analysis basis. The RSI indicator since 24/04/2012 (@3581pts) has not been making new highs as the index went up to 3708 and now trying to retest 3708. This means bulls are running out of strength to push the index further or to new highs.

On elliot wave I had suggest sometime back that 3800 - 4000 is the likely topside then we start the correction. I expect one more exhaustion topside attack to 3800 - 3900 then the correction kicks in.

On fibo basis @3796 NSE20 would have retraced upto the 23.6% level from a low of 3072. 38.2% retracement aims 4432.

Therefore a lot of resistance is coalescing at the 3700 - 3800 zone.

@deal can also confirm what his models show. @mwekezaji too does some tech analysis.

Fundamentally - the econ is still limping. I don't like what I'm seeing with the national current account. Election periods in KE also mean investors hold back a lot of investments. Eurozone is still a nightmare happening silently. The sooner it happens the better for everyone to move on.

Update - forgot to mention that oil announcement and the level of commercial deposits will shutter most of the technicals.




$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
guru267
#175 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2012 9:03:58 PM
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hisah wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
How fast we've gotten to 3,700pts. This was Ally Satchu's year 2012 closing figure.
While im happy, so happy at the rally, one has to sit back and ask themselves; where do we go from here?
Over to the chartists @Hisah,@Deal and @QW....comments please...



I thought cartoons (aka charts) were no longer appreciated...

On 21/05/2012 the NSE20 closed @3708. Today it has closed @3704. However, I am not excited on a technical analysis basis. The RSI indicator since 24/04/2012 (@3581pts) has not been making new highs as the index went up to 3708 and now trying to retest 3708. This means bulls are running out of strength to push the index further or to new highs.

On elliot wave I had suggest sometime back that 3800 - 4000 is the likely topside then we start the correction. I expect one more exhaustion topside attack to 3800 - 3900 then the correction kicks in.

On fibo basis @3796 NSE20 would have retraced upto the 23.6% level from a low of 3072. 38.2% retracement aims 4432.

Therefore a lot of resistance is coalescing at the 3700 - 3800 zone.

@deal can also confirm what his models show. @mwekezaji too does some tech analysis.

Fundamentally - the econ is still limping. I don't like what I'm seeing with the national current account. Election periods in KE also mean investors hold back a lot of investments. Eurozone is still a nightmare happening silently. The sooner it happens the better for everyone to move on.

Update - forgot to mention that oil announcement and the level of commercial deposits will shutter most of the technicals.






Hey cartoonist.. See you at 4,100 on the NSE 20 smile
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
QW25091985
#176 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2012 9:52:49 PM
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hisah wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
How fast we've gotten to 3,700pts. This was Ally Satchu's year 2012 closing figure.
While im happy, so happy at the rally, one has to sit back and ask themselves; where do we go from here?
Over to the chartists @Hisah,@Deal and @QW....comments please...



I thought cartoons (aka charts) were no longer appreciated...

On 21/05/2012 the NSE20 closed @3708. Today it has closed @3704. However, I am not excited on a technical analysis basis. The RSI indicator since 24/04/2012 (@3581pts) has not been making new highs as the index went up to 3708 and now trying to retest 3708. This means bulls are running out of strength to push the index further or to new highs.

On elliot wave I had suggest sometime back that 3800 - 4000 is the likely topside then we start the correction. I expect one more exhaustion topside attack to 3800 - 3900 then the correction kicks in.

On fibo basis @3796 NSE20 would have retraced upto the 23.6% level from a low of 3072. 38.2% retracement aims 4432.

Therefore a lot of resistance is coalescing at the 3700 - 3800 zone.

@deal can also confirm what his models show. @mwekezaji too does some tech analysis.

Fundamentally - the econ is still limping. I don't like what I'm seeing with the national current account. Election periods in KE also mean investors hold back a lot of investments. Eurozone is still a nightmare happening silently. The sooner it happens the better for everyone to move on.

Update - forgot to mention that oil announcement and the level of commercial deposits will shutter most of the technicals.







wow. i bet 99.9% of people on this block just passed what you wrote @hisah ! maybe you can draw those elliot waves and fib retracement on the charts.
QW25091985
#177 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2012 9:55:01 PM
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so am wondering fundamentalist like @ guru and @yucant , @ vvs @ stockmaster . what are you doing buying stocks yet the economy is looking very bad with growth projections being slashed everyday ?
why dont you let us technical analysts enjoy this rally alone !maybe you can wait until the economy improves then you can start buying stocks . Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#178 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2012 10:10:19 PM
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hisah wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
How fast we've gotten to 3,700pts. This was Ally Satchu's year 2012 closing figure.
While im happy, so happy at the rally, one has to sit back and ask themselves; where do we go from here?
Over to the chartists @Hisah,@Deal and @QW....comments please...



I thought cartoons (aka charts) were no longer appreciated...

On 21/05/2012 the NSE20 closed @3708. Today it has closed @3704. However, I am not excited on a technical analysis basis. The RSI indicator since 24/04/2012 (@3581pts) has not been making new highs as the index went up to 3708 and now trying to retest 3708. This means bulls are running out of strength to push the index further or to new highs.

On elliot wave I had suggest sometime back that 3800 - 4000 is the likely topside then we start the correction. I expect one more exhaustion topside attack to 3800 - 3900 then the correction kicks in.

On fibo basis @3796 NSE20 would have retraced upto the 23.6% level from a low of 3072. 38.2% retracement aims 4432.

Therefore a lot of resistance is coalescing at the 3700 - 3800 zone.

@deal can also confirm what his models show. @mwekezaji too does some tech analysis.

Fundamentally - the econ is still limping. I don't like what I'm seeing with the national current account. Election periods in KE also mean investors hold back a lot of investments. Eurozone is still a nightmare happening silently. The sooner it happens the better for everyone to move on.

Update - forgot to mention that oil announcement and the level of commercial deposits will shutter most of the technicals.





#Word!
Many thanks @Hisah.Applause We can only ignore charts at our own peril.
I like the update part where you talk of the oil find & commercial deposits which are in more reasons than one fundamental in nature just like the econ & political factors!
And yes, i join madam guru in calling for 4,100! See you there!smile
@SufficientlyP
Aguytrying
#179 Posted : Friday, June 22, 2012 10:11:45 PM
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can all this heedlessness go unpunished?
investors are beginning to feel like this rally will never end. this is when the hammer drops. market pe is ok but macro economic conditions do not support this euphoria
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
VituVingiSana
#180 Posted : Saturday, June 23, 2012 12:30:40 AM
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QW25091985 wrote:
so am wondering fundamentalist like @ guru and @yucant , @ vvs @ stockmaster . what are you doing buying stocks yet the economy is looking very bad with growth projections being slashed everyday ?
why dont you let us technical analysts enjoy this rally alone !maybe you can wait until the economy improves then you can start buying stocks . Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I recommend buying KK. Loving it. 100% on fundamentals. 1H 2012 was known for 3 months (READ the Annual Report) but 2H is where the money is to be made. Then the takeover. Then the party!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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