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KENOL KOBIL .... 2012
youcan'tstopusnow
#541 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:34:48 PM
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Aguytrying, I also don't have any plans to remain in a private company, regardless of what the offer price will be (We don't know. What is in the public domain is just speculation.) It is time to pore through the financials of other companies to decide where to put the proceeds of the deal...
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#542 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:15:01 PM
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So according TO the press statement Puma has 6weeks to do due diligence with 2 weeks extension if they require it.

So the shares might be suspended upto July where we might also get the Offer price.
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#543 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:56:44 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Aguytrying, I also don't have any plans to remain in a private company, regardless of what the offer price will be (We don't know. What is in the public domain is just speculation.) It is time to pore through the financials of other companies to decide where to put the proceeds of the deal...

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#544 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:50:49 PM
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so segman and company will be making all their money with their esop plan while we the common people will be left out . bad i like @ycnt way of thinking . just take what thrown at u.
Jamani
#545 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:54:02 PM
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#546 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:20:09 PM
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Those who got their dividend, was is a cheque or EFT.
My EFT bado!

Back to the circular released today on compulsory acquisition, if they offer anything above Ksh20bob i will have made 100% return. I think we may not have too many options and i will be on the side of majority shareholders.
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Aguytrying
#547 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:21:17 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Aguytrying, I also don't have any plans to remain in a private company, regardless of what the offer price will be (We don't know. What is in the public domain is just speculation.) It is time to pore through the financials of other companies to decide where to put the proceeds of the deal...

Real tialk! Feeling Jamnazi, Golden Handshake ikwende Cooperative...


@you. Me too ill have to take it, eight years begging a company to buy my shares!
I was thinking of starting a thread for KK shareholders " Next investment". but wont.
been poring through Bamburi, i like.
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Aguytrying
#548 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:35:33 PM
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selah wrote:
So according TO the press statement Puma has 6weeks to do due diligence with 2 weeks extension if they require it.

So the shares might be suspended upto July where we might also get the Offer price.


@selah. I see this going through the unilever, brookebond way.
Most likely the suspension will never be lifted(unless the takeover fails). The next share action will be for shareholders to accept or reject the offer.
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VituVingiSana
#549 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:36:02 PM
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Which company took 8 years? EAPI?

Did minority s/holders get dividends in those 8 years?
What is the 'new' buyout price vs the price offered 8 years ago?
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Aguytrying
#550 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:42:44 PM
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BROOKE BOND BIDS TO TAKE OVER UNILEVER
10 Jul 08
Brooke Bond Group Limited has proposed a takeover of Unilever Tea Kenya Limited (UTKL) which has suffered the tightening market conditions across the globe. UTKL is planning to introduce some radical changes as they seek to attain a competitive edge in the market.
Brooke Bond, a UK incorporated company, already holds an 88.2 % stake of the company and is now seeking to take up the remaining 11.76% - an equivalent of 5.75 million ordinary shares valued at Kshs.62 each.
If this takeover is successful. It will see the UTKL shares de-listed from the Nairobi Stock Exchange and all the shareholders (other than the Brooke Bond) will be offered Kshs.62 for each of the shares held as at 7th July 2008.
The shareholders will receive comprehensive documents in connection with the proposed offer, including offer documents, a letter of recommendation from the board of directors among others. These letters are expected to be sent on or about the 5th of September 2008.
However, if the takeover does not sail through by 6th of October 2008, dealings of UTKL will resume at the NSE on or about 19th of October 2008.

unilever was suspended on 8th july 2008
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#551 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:49:33 PM
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Jamani wrote:
Looking at it in a different way, the larger shareholders might be making a merali-celtel move... sell/tranfer the local shares and get holding into the group...


@jamani where did you hear these swap rumours? In offers for compulsory acquisition, the minority must get the same terms as the majority.
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Aguytrying
#552 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:51:18 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Which company took 8 years? EAPI?

Did minority s/holders get dividends in those 8 years?
What is the 'new' buyout price vs the price offered 8 years ago?


Can't remember the company. It was in Zambia if im not wrong. It was a newspaper reporting on a minority shareholder suing the company to buy his shares or something like that. The linked was posted on this thread a while back.
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VituVingiSana
#553 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:07:10 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Which company took 8 years? EAPI?

Did minority s/holders get dividends in those 8 years?
What is the 'new' buyout price vs the price offered 8 years ago?

Can't remember the company. It was in Zambia if im not wrong. It was a newspaper reporting on a minority shareholder suing the company to buy his shares or something like that. The linked was posted on this thread a while back.

LOL, wacha uwongo! That was BP Zambia (now Puma Energy Zambia) & the takeover happened 2 years ago.

Anyway, could this happen in Kenya?
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youcan'tstopusnow
#554 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:33:48 PM
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BGL, EFT payments are scheduled to be made tomorrow or Thursday.
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Aguytrying
#555 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:35:31 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Which company took 8 years? EAPI?

Did minority s/holders get dividends in those 8 years?
What is the 'new' buyout price vs the price offered 8 years ago?

Can't remember the company. It was in Zambia if im not wrong. It was a newspaper reporting on a minority shareholder suing the company to buy his shares or something like that. The linked was posted on this thread a while back.

LOL, wacha uwongo! That was BP Zambia (now Puma Energy Zambia) & the takeover happened 2 years ago.

Anyway, could this happen in Kenya?


Ive gone through the thread, and yeah the zambia one is for 2 years ago. a postzambia link.
But there is another story on this thread about minorities trapped for eight years with no one to but their shares. Cant find it though. mwenye alipost ajitokeze.
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Aguytrying
#556 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:38:13 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Which company took 8 years? EAPI?

Did minority s/holders get dividends in those 8 years?
What is the 'new' buyout price vs the price offered 8 years ago?

Can't remember the company. It was in Zambia if im not wrong. It was a newspaper reporting on a minority shareholder suing the company to buy his shares or something like that. The linked was posted on this thread a while back.

LOL, wacha uwongo! That was BP Zambia (now Puma Energy Zambia) & the takeover happened 2 years ago.

Anyway, could this happen in Kenya?


Ive gone through the thread, and yeah the zambia one is for 2 years ago. a postzambia link.
But there is another story on this thread about minorities trapped for eight years with no one to but their shares. Cant find it though. mwenye alipost ajitokeze.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
VituVingiSana
#557 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:45:58 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Which company took 8 years? EAPI?

Did minority s/holders get dividends in those 8 years?
What is the 'new' buyout price vs the price offered 8 years ago?

Can't remember the company. It was in Zambia if im not wrong. It was a newspaper reporting on a minority shareholder suing the company to buy his shares or something like that. The linked was posted on this thread a while back.

LOL, wacha uwongo! That was BP Zambia (now Puma Energy Zambia) & the takeover happened 2 years ago.

Anyway, could this happen in Kenya?


Ive gone through the thread, and yeah the zambia one is for 2 years ago. a postzambia link.
But there is another story on this thread about minorities trapped for eight years with no one to but their shares. Cant find it though. mwenye alipost ajitokeze.
Unilever Tea in 2008 so that leaves EAPI...
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Jamani
#558 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:53:30 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Jamani wrote:
Looking at it in a different way, the larger shareholders might be making a merali-celtel move... sell/tranfer the local shares and get holding into the group...


@jamani where did you hear these swap rumours? In offers for compulsory acquisition, the minority must get the same terms as the majority.


I didnt hear of them anywhere, i just thought and seeing what segman is writing stating that the company will be good and thats what it required, then i ask myself it will be good for whom? he is supposed to be speaking for shareholders but which ones? this lead me to the thought that there could be a merali in the offing only that they will not use the current ownership names.....
mwekez@ji
#559 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:29:13 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Ati H1 profits will drop but profits will see new heights if the takeover goes through. An indirect way of telling us to just sell this thing to the 'better hands'. NKT

Let's also try to be nice smile WPP came into Scan & things improved. smile


Sasawa. smile The price had better be nice smile because a number of things are not adding up and could end up causing a minority shareholders revolt. For instance, couldn’t this puma take us with them to Canaan, like WPP did in Scan?

Like @Jamani, I think the majority shareholders are also getting “shares swap” coz how else can this deal make sense

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#560 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:22:57 AM
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