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Education/Life Policy
Abby
#31 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 6:30:14 PM
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Every time my money goes when I get into insurance policies. I have lost so much money I hate to do the calculations.

Just invest in plots; if you are not there, things will resolve themselves ..... if you have property, especially one that generates income.

The Government, Banks, Insurance Companies, etc are called "Predators" out to enjoy your hard earned cash ... that is what Kiyosaki says we should guard ourselves against ... wish I knew this years ago.

These salesmen are deadly!!
Layman
#32 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:11:12 AM
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Low uptake of insurance linked to confusing details: READ HERE: http://www.businessdaily.../-/15uyrfc/-/index.html
Layman
#33 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:17:25 AM
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mukiha wrote:
@Layman; now that we are on the same page, what's take on comparing, say, an education policy to investing the same money in a plot?


To me, the only difference is that you keep off the worries with Educatiojn policy as it doesn't involve you much apart from religiously paying the premium as you wait for the maturity of the policy (the insurance doesnt have to pay school fees, you may opt to take the lumps sum cash and put somewhere else). However, the returns may be a little low.
Wendz
#34 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:20:45 PM
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mukiha wrote:

The only time I can think off that one can look at the price is when comparing two or more insurance policies. But comparing an education policy to, say, buying a plot of land [as one person has done in this thread] is not correct.


You are right... these are two different vehicles leading to solving the same problem - the piece of mind that your children's education is guaranteed. The only comparison came in because they were both being used to solve same kind of problem. While the insurance will cover you incase of death, i know, from the investments, your children's education are also covered because those properties can be liquidated to serve the same purpose. While payment of the same amount (albeit over time) would have lead to a lumpsum payment of 1m after 13years, if invested elsewhere, you can still have your 1m and more 13 years on.... lets say, the only risk that you need to accept/absorb is at the time when you pass-on before your investment grows to the sum insured that you'd have been paid. Once your investment surpasses the sum insured, then you are covered.

What you invest on also matters. For example, putting the same amount in shares or in business is more risky than investing in say property. You look for the low risk investments that will grow much faster and surpass what you'd get as sum insured (if same amount was used as premium) to meet your children's education needs.

The beauty with investing is that, even if you passed on, and say your spouse can afford to continue paying schoolfees for your kids even after the "maturity date" then they dont have to liquidate the investments and it can be left for the value to continue growing.... for the insurance, once maturity time comes, you get your pay what you do with it is another story.... not withstanding the erosion of the sum insured value because of inflation and other economic factors. Investments tend to respond to this and adjust accordingly faster than the policies would.

Bottomline, we have same destination - getting the kids educated - but we use different vehicles to get there. For me, I still believe it was the best decision i ever made. No regrets whatsoever. I am still not touching education policies.
butterflyke
#35 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 10:26:56 PM
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Was looking for opinions on life cover policies and endowment policies and the discussions on this thread have been valuable. Thanks wazuans.

For me it's all about purpose, policies are largely about protection which investments may or may not provide. If I can afford it, I'd do both. I'd like to be an african who plans better smile

more inputs/opinions are welcome
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
rsure123
#36 Posted : Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:39:32 AM
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Insurance is designed to protect you from suffering a loss that you cannot afford. Medicine and education are the two industries were prices never fall as technology increases. So if the unthinkable occurs, insurance is there to protect you from financial ruin.
nikimani
#37 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2012 3:45:12 PM
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i have been working in the insurance industry for sometime, i will advise the following key pointers.
1. deal with a professional agent, most agents are employed on a temporary basis and will care less on your well being,will mis-sell the product as their main aim is short term, commission vs client retention.
2. shop around for the best deal, why take an education policy giving projections as little as 6% or 8% on a ten year deal when there are unit trust linked products that can give over 12% compound interest or above for the same.
3. read the fine print, terms and conditions. most agents will not tell you this as the main objective is their sale. i.e paid up value,where you will lose money if you default during this period.
4. disclosure, brings me back to the agent. According to new AKI regulations, the agent will if asked, disclose to you what percentage of commission he will earn from the sale. there are companies which give their agents 40% of your premium for the first 2 years, this is atrocious!
5. when taking life insurance, treat is as protection,not investment. securing your assets and family incase of death or disabilty, the sum assured is not yours,it will go to your beneficiaries. life insurance is cheap and mandatory i.e for a 42 yr old man the premium comes to roughly ksh. 2000 per month!if you have actualised and have a futuristic plan, you can treat is as inheritance for your kids.
6. for an education policy,look for the most key benefit. the premium waiver. this binds the insurance company to continue paying premiums on your behalf to the maximum term period, incase of death or dis ability occurs to you, in other words, you have guarateed your child an education! this is invaluable, you might have the know how to invest money elsewhere for your child's future for much more impressive returns, but what will happen to your child if you were to God-forbid, die or be permanently disabled? profit vs security? thats where you make your choice.
7. always try to deal with the reputable companies,the so called 'big fish'. they may be high end or expensive but, we all know cheap is expensive. companies where you can pay conviniently,get statements online, access statements anytime you want to, access your agent incase of need, get advise on opportunity from your agent or company and most importantly pay as per agreement on maturity.
8. lastly,insurance is supposed to let you sleep easy,knowing your assets are safe,kids future is safe and lastly your family's livelyhood is guaranteed whether your there or not.
anymore queries i will give free advise, nychmwus@gmail.com
mmarto
#38 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 10:03:00 AM
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@nikimani, thank you. I have been struggling to take it because my mind was set on profit instead of security?
The only time you should be looking down on others is when you are helping them up.
nikimani
#39 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:53:04 PM
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mmarto drop me an email.
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