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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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chris79 wrote:premio wrote:if we support orange and airtel they will have cash to invest in new infrastructure and give us better deals. How do you support them yet you want to download 30GB for only 200 bob. That's killing them, not supporting them. The problem is that neither of these companies realise this... I think the 30GB was an extreme occurrence, that safaricom choose to use to support termination of the unlimited service.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Kratos wrote:NuM1hAt3r wrote:Safaricom hse on waiyaki way is not safaricom's. WTF?
Iko watu wana pesa (landlord)
Meanwhle safcom should explain where they peleka their billions worth of profits. Safcm subscribrs are being conned jst like our politicians do to us. They lie steal n somehow we vote them in read continue topping up n overcharged for mediocre service. Nkt! Kenyans are a funny (peculiar) bunch at times  Explain to whom share holders? Safaricom is conning no one, as has been said if you don't like the service, HAMA! @Kratos I agree with you if you have the option of getting service from different providers pick one that is most suitable for you and makes you happy,this was a hard move to take but in the long run am positive as a shareholder that it will be for the good of the company...You have a free will on this... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/8/2009 Posts: 274 Location: Ltktk
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maka wrote:Kratos wrote:NuM1hAt3r wrote:Safaricom hse on waiyaki way is not safaricom's. WTF?
Iko watu wana pesa (landlord)
Meanwhle safcom should explain where they peleka their billions worth of profits. Safcm subscribrs are being conned jst like our politicians do to us. They lie steal n somehow we vote them in read continue topping up n overcharged for mediocre service. Nkt! Kenyans are a funny (peculiar) bunch at times Explain to whom share holders? Safaricom is conning no one, as has been said if you don't like the service, HAMA! @Kratos I agree with you if you have the option of getting service from different providers pick one that is most suitable for you and makes you happy,this was a hard move to take but in the long run am positive as a shareholder that it will be for the good of the company...You have a free will on this... SAFARICOM IS CRAP. TO HELL WITH THEM. They are not a monopoly any more. Am happy using Airtel Edge huku mashambani where we have no other option. Its better unlimited Edge than bundles. Was happy freelancing on Safcom unlimited but now that they have withdrawn it, Airtel is the only other option. Yu cannot even load pages. Am lucky the Airtel Edge can even stream some Internet radios. If I had Safcom shares I would sell them at 2bob. If Airtel were listed at NSE I would buy their shares even at a premium. ...things fall apart...the centre cannot hold..mere anarchy is loosed upon the world...w b yeats
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2010 Posts: 163 Location: PyongYang
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Its practically impossible to download 30GB on speeds of 512kbps over a period of 24hrs.. speaking from experience i once tried downloading season 23 Survivor which was 5.23GB. and had 250 seeds on the torrent and it took me 10 hrs to complete.. so Bob collymore more should tell that to the Birds. If i showed you where i live, you would think that i was hiding.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/19/2010 Posts: 237 Location: Republic of Graham & Doddsville
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@Tupac said, "If I had Safcom shares I would sell them at 2bob. If Airtel were listed at NSE I would buy their shares even at a premium."!!! Am not a safcon protagonist but, I wouldn't let my bile for one company over another cloud my investing judgement at the risk of being a dumb investor. We Will Either Find a Way or Create One - HANNIBAL
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,455
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PuthyKrasha wrote:Its practically impossible to download 30GB on speeds of 512kbps over a period of 24hrs.. speaking from experience i once tried downloading season 23 Survivor which was 5.23GB. and had 250 seeds on the torrent and it took me 10 hrs to complete.. so Bob collymore more should tell that to the Birds. Talk to @Allank. See what he said on post#43 below. Allank wrote:And just becoz one BOB that is not cool anymore has decided to make my 10k modem that was capable of gulping down 35gb of data in a day worthless!! gives me all the reasons to yap!yap! doesnt mean i dont have a choice to VUKA. But what pains my ass ,is why should i buy another modem just coz Bob has decided to con me more??? Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,455
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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MaichBlack wrote:PuthyKrasha wrote:Its practically impossible to download 30GB on speeds of 512kbps over a period of 24hrs.. speaking from experience i once tried downloading season 23 Survivor which was 5.23GB. and had 250 seeds on the torrent and it took me 10 hrs to complete.. so Bob collymore more should tell that to the Birds. Talk to @Allank. See what he said on post#43 below. Allank wrote:And just becoz one BOB that is not cool anymore has decided to make my 10k modem that was capable of gulping down 35gb of data in a day worthless!! gives me all the reasons to yap!yap! doesnt mean i dont have a choice to VUKA. But what pains my ass ,is why should i buy another modem just coz Bob has decided to con me more??? at 512kbps one would need around 130 hrs to download 30gb of data, assuming the connection is perfect with no overheads.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Still following this thread to find out where I should decamp to. Zuku/Orange/Airtel Points noted so far. 1.Poor customer service 2.Poor speeds 3.Cost.All are cheaper than saf. Which should overide the other?  Torn btwn airtel and Orange. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Don't know much about shares please enlighten me, but I thought the perceived value counts somehow, facebook has never made a profit since inception.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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nakujua wrote:Don't know much about shares please enlighten me, but I thought the perceived value counts somehow, facebook has never made a profit since inception. But how does this giant site make money if you can join up for free? The amount of web pages required to run a website for half a billion members must cost considerably! Well, who would be interested in advertising to such a keyword friendly database? Every company on Earth that wants to make money! And so far, surprisingly few companies have really switched on to the fact that they can gain massive targeted exposure for their brand very inexpensively on this colossal site. C&P from Facebook ......every day more and more companies the world over sign up to get their brand seen here. One way to accomplish that is to set up a free community page about the company or a particular brand the company promotes, such as a popular beer, or an insurance service. The fastest growing paid advertising method is to advertise in the right hand sidebar: you can choose what location, what interests, and what gender and age your advertisement appears to. That is far more powerful for any business than advertising in a directory.C&P Facebook said it would seek to raise $5bn (£3.16bn, 3.8bn euros), about half the amount many analysts expected.
But the initial public offering (IPO) is still expected to be the biggest sale of shares by an internet company.
Facebook, just eight years old and started by Harvard University students, now has 845 million users and made a profit of $1bn last year.FACEBOOK PROFITS
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Kratos wrote:nakujua wrote:Don't know much about shares please enlighten me, but I thought the perceived value counts somehow, facebook has never made a profit since inception. But how does this giant site make money if you can join up for free? The amount of web pages required to run a website for half a billion members must cost considerably! Well, who would be interested in advertising to such a keyword friendly database? Every company on Earth that wants to make money! And so far, surprisingly few companies have really switched on to the fact that they can gain massive targeted exposure for their brand very inexpensively on this colossal site. C&P from Facebook ......every day more and more companies the world over sign up to get their brand seen here. One way to accomplish that is to set up a free community page about the company or a particular brand the company promotes, such as a popular beer, or an insurance service. The fastest growing paid advertising method is to advertise in the right hand sidebar: you can choose what location, what interests, and what gender and age your advertisement appears to. That is far more powerful for any business than advertising in a directory.C&P Facebook said it would seek to raise $5bn (£3.16bn, 3.8bn euros), about half the amount many analysts expected.
But the initial public offering (IPO) is still expected to be the biggest sale of shares by an internet company.
Facebook, just eight years old and started by Harvard University students, now has 845 million users and made a profit of $1bn last year.FACEBOOK PROFITS thank you for that, sshould have done some research before posting that - guess I should have used Instagram instead.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/16/2012 Posts: 808
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If the speed was at a constant 512 Kbps (Kilobits per seconds), then it is impossible to download 35gb per day because the maximum downloads in 24 hrs with a constant 512 Kbps connection is 5.4 Gigabytes 512 Kilobits Per Second x 60 = 30720 Kilobits Per Min 30720 Kilobits Per Min x 60 = 1843200 Kilobits Per Hour 1843200 Kilobits Per Hour / 8 = 230400 Kilobytes per hour 230400 Kilobytes per hour / 1024 = 225 Megabytes Per Hour 225 Megabytes Per Hour x 24 = 5400 Megabytes per 24 Hrs / 1000 = 5.4 Gigabytes This would make sense if it was meant to be 35gb per week, because 35 / 5.4 will give 6.5, which is about 7 days, but if it was per day, then, the speeds would obviously have to be more than 512 kbps. To do 35 Gb per day would mean that the speed would need to be at least 3319 Kbps or 3.2 Mbps - Being the networks average speed? (35 Gb / 5.4 Gb) 512 Kbps= 3319 Kbps 3319 Kbps / 1024 = 3.2 Mega bits per seconds They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304
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D32 wrote:If the speed was at a constant 512 Kbps (Kilobits per seconds), then it is impossible to download 35gb per day because the maximum downloads in 24 hrs with a constant 512 Kbps connection is 5.4 Gigabytes
512 Kilobits Per Second x 60 = 30720 Kilobits Per Min
30720 Kilobits Per Min x 60 = 1843200 Kilobits Per Hour
1843200 Kilobits Per Hour / 8 = 230400 Kilobytes per hour
230400 Kilobytes per hour / 1024 = 225 Megabytes Per Hour
225 Megabytes Per Hour x 24 = 5400 Megabytes per 24 Hrs / 1000 = 5.4 Gigabytes
This would make sense if it was meant to be 35gb per week, because 35 / 5.4 will give 6.5, which is about 7 days, but if it was per day, then, the speeds would obviously have to be more than 512 kbps.
To do 35 Gb per day would mean that the speed would need to be at least 3319 Kbps or 3.2 Mbps - Being the networks average speed?
(35 Gb / 5.4 Gb) 512 Kbps= 3319 Kbps
3319 Kbps / 1024 = 3.2 Mega bits per seconds Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/13/2006 Posts: 70
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TUPAC wrote:Alfylavie wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Allank wrote:But what pains my ass ,is why should i buy another modem just coz Bob has decided to con me more??? @Allank - You don't have to buy another Modem. This is Nairobbery! Take a walk down River Road or Tom Mboya street and your modem will shika everything including AT&T. Actually the was a wazuan who was doing. You can search the thread. Can they unlock E173 safcom modem? had my E173 unlocked in one of the stalls hapo opposite firestation. tom mboya street.it accepts all simcards.but orange has refused to connect.but the modem can pick its 3g signal. just walk into those stalls. Thanks guys Huawei E1820 has some serious customized firmware but i would love to give our brothers at tomboya street a try. Any body with the stall number so that i can send someone. Kama kuoga ni usafi taulo lachafukani?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/31/2007 Posts: 341
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D32 wrote:If the speed was at a constant 512 Kbps (Kilobits per seconds), then it is impossible to download 35gb per day because the maximum downloads in 24 hrs with a constant 512 Kbps connection is 5.4 Gigabytes
512 Kilobits Per Second x 60 = 30720 Kilobits Per Min
30720 Kilobits Per Min x 60 = 1843200 Kilobits Per Hour
1843200 Kilobits Per Hour / 8 = 230400 Kilobytes per hour
230400 Kilobytes per hour / 1024 = 225 Megabytes Per Hour
225 Megabytes Per Hour x 24 = 5400 Megabytes per 24 Hrs / 1000 = 5.4 Gigabytes
This would make sense if it was meant to be 35gb per week, because 35 / 5.4 will give 6.5, which is about 7 days, but if it was per day, then, the speeds would obviously have to be more than 512 kbps.
To do 35 Gb per day would mean that the speed would need to be at least 3319 Kbps or 3.2 Mbps - Being the networks average speed?
(35 Gb / 5.4 Gb) 512 Kbps= 3319 Kbps
3319 Kbps / 1024 = 3.2 Mega bits per seconds Apparently it is actually possible to bypass the limitations set by the network and download huge volumes of data. See link... www.nation.co.ke/Feature...2/-/mkmn02z/-/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,455
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Quote:“The unit that the consumer is paying for is not quantifiable or valid. It’s like a water company charging users for the pipe as opposed to the amount of water they use,” said telecommunications consultant Thomas Makau. Quote:Other industry players also confess to having experienced similar problems with subscribers on the same model.
“Unlimited is supposed to be an individual-usage plan, but we have seen people run whole businesses on the plan,” said Telkom-Orange’s Angela Ng’ang’a-Mumo.
Quote:Additionally, some users have learned to bypass the speed and data usage limitations.
“It is possible to bypass the limitations. People took advantage of the network to download massive amounts of data,” said technology commentator Kennedy Kachwanya.
Quote:Unlimited bundles had been popular internationally until recently when a series of firms abandoned them amid legal suits. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/16/2012 Posts: 808
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Thanks for the article. It's now clear how 35 Gb per day was possible. They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/24/2010 Posts: 136 Location: Nairobi
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Quote:“It is possible to bypass the limitations. People took advantage of the network to download massive amounts of data,” said technology commentator Kennedy Kachwanya.
Quote:Unlimited bundles had been popular internationally until recently when a series of firms abandoned them amid legal suits. [/quote] “It is possible to bypass the limitations" Whats the problem if we bypass 35gb or whatever.. Has the word Unlimited lost its meaning? if there is limit or we r not allowed to download beyond 35gb then DONT CALL IT UNLIMITED Am waiting for their announcement 2morro Making money never gets boring
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/31/2007 Posts: 341
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Alfylavie wrote:Quote:“It is possible to bypass the limitations. People took advantage of the network to download massive amounts of data,” said technology commentator Kennedy Kachwanya.
Quote:Unlimited bundles had been popular internationally until recently when a series of firms abandoned them amid legal suits. “It is possible to bypass the limitations" Whats the problem if we bypass 35gb or whatever.. Has the word Unlimited lost its meaning? if there is limit or we r not allowed to download beyond 35gb then DONT CALL IT UNLIMITED Am waiting for their announcement 2morro[/quote] Hence the reason it was scrapped coz it amounted to a misrepresentation of facts and thus left them open to legal suits. Airtel and Orange are in effect still lying to you that they have unlimited internet yet they have a fair usage policy. If anybody tells you that they can offer you unlimited internet on a shared platform that person is cheating you...
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