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mukiha
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:04:00 PM
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I have just migrated from the dreaded Zain to orange 'Internet Everywhere 3G+'

We,we,we,hi kitu ni fast sana.

And at one bob per MB [compared to over 3.30bob on Zain] I don't see myself going back there again.

Who wants to buy my Zain modem....?

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mchuuzi
#2 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:01:00 PM
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#3 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:18:00 PM
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valuable feedback... hope the orange modems are readily available... those from competing service providers were completely out of stock in Oct
Kamaa
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:40:00 PM
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and if one got an opened modem (safaricon) can one enjoy the fastest 3G+ internet?

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Kamaa
#5 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:47:00 PM
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BTW what could be the problem with my safaricom modem that is disconnecting every 1 minute...?

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VituVingiSana
#6 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:02:00 PM
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3G+ is CDMA (I think) not GSM so no... the opened safaricom modem will not work... If 3G+ is GSM (I doubt) then yes...

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Feish
#7 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2009 8:42:00 PM
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CDMA technology?????? is it really ripe for African market. Time will tell. We had the same technology introduced in Rwanda some 3 yrs ago with pomp and color by some american guy. Cheap phone calls,internet na kadhalika but after a few months it was not sustainable since most guys want a gadget they can exchange the sims. i.e the mass market. I dont believe the two guys in it already will be able to pay for the salary of the expatriates from france when they are paying 1 bob per MB.

\Anyway enjoy while it lasts then come back early nxt yr


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Outvestor
#8 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2009 2:50:00 AM
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@VVS,true,3G+ service is EvDO (Evolution Data Optimized) technology running on the CDMA platform. Therefore Kamaa,hard luck with an open 3G modem.

@Mukiha,as the name EvDO suggests,the technology has been tweaked to handle data better. This contributes to the good speeds. Also,the contention rate is much lower (how many guys are on 3G+?). I hope the Machungwa fellaz will uphold the reliability currently being experienced on the service.

@Feish,since GSM technology set in before CDMA,the scales tilt in favour of GSM. People are generally sceptical when told ati they need yet another gadget in order that they make use of the CDMA network. That's the drawback!

From the bussiness standpoint,the telecomms stage is still another 'Kula Korner' for foreigners. The technical bit & infrastructure is undertaken by the chinese (Huawei Technologies),which is fine,while I'm sure there's a chain of 'Specialists' from France enjoying their sabbatical in the name of supporting the chinese technology. LOL.

Else,technologywise,CDMA comes tops on most benchmarks when compared to GSM. But what the heck!


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Kamaa
#9 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2009 5:50:00 AM
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i agree with you guys....

it might not hit the market albeit it sounds great...

if i need to get another modem to enjoy it...

obviously at a fortune (even though it seems small)...

very few will make the switch...

and in the longrun it will be expensive for them to maintain...

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mukiha
#10 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2009 8:40:00 AM
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When I first got frustrated by Zain's speeds,some guys from SCOM offered me their connection. I told them to come and do a test run.

RESULT:
Their moden was not faster than Zain! So I don't understand why so many people sing praises of SCOM 3G.

This is the reason I moved to Orange. I was not just looking for another provider. I wanted different technology altogether. And by the way,Sh4,000 didn't seem so expensive compared to the Sh6,000 that I had paid for the Zain modem a year ago.

Incidentally; Internet connection is still virgin territory in Kenya. It's not like the voice call sector that has 18 million subscribers.

There are still less than 2 million internet users [including all the students who use cyber cafes] in the country. No wonder MJ of SCOM is sound very upbeat about this line of business.

Therefore,the choice between GSM and CDMA is not a big problem....

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Djinn
#11 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2009 10:51:00 AM
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I predicted this,amidst all the hawking of safaricom modems - Orange are not here to play division one data...premier league - and they have the clout and wherewithal to do so. meanwhile back at the green farm they are tossing up seeds hoping some will land somewhere they can grow - hit and miss marketing. Having said that,I will remain loyal to Zain (voice,data and Zap - btw we may very soon be able to Zap some chaagas,nyamwezis,baganda,banyankole on the one network...)

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Djinn
#12 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2009 10:58:00 AM
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@mukiha - there are actually 3.5 million internet users - out of which abt 1.6 million use mobile data (handsets,USB modems,etc) - so yes,the ground is very,very fertile. And,you rightly say the bulk of the users are through cybers and corporate connections...but when people go back home,they have no internet - thats the frontier the battle will be waged. AK are unlikely to hack it with their 'internet@home' which costs way too much anyway vis a vis the USB's by Orange,Green and Zain. If you were to look at individual connections (excluding the mobile 1.6 million,users) i.e. when you count a cyber as ONE connection (with between 50-250 yahoo/gmail users per day),Barclays as ONE connection (with abt 1000 users),etc total connections (not users) are less than...100,000



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mukiha
#13 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 8:05:00 PM
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Never experienced this....over 100kBps tonight...this this is good.....

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kangi
#14 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:48:00 AM
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@ outvestor.I hav used my phone handset as my modem using the safcon network,I recently loaded my orange line with data,but av not been able to access their network even after being sent their settings.Do phones hav this change of platform in terms of cdma n gsm? otherwise nice topic

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Outvestor
#15 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:52:00 AM
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@Mukiha,the downside of these 'wireless' data access technologies is that they rely on the service coverage area. Your unfortunate experience with Safaricom 3G can most probably be attributed to this. Good practise is to do your test runs then go for what works best for you. Otherwise other than the recent slump in speeds (blame it on the 200/= offer),their 3G service is superb where there is good 3G coverage.

BTW: For those on Safaricom 3G using the Huawei E160 modem,there is some new Modem Software that simplifies your transactions and even shows the amount of data bundles left after usage. Download it from their site:

http://www.safaricom.co....160_Upgrade_Process.zip


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Outvestor
#16 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:31:00 AM
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@Kangi:
For clarity,I'll match the jumbled up products at Telkom-Orange with their base Technologies.

Telkom wireless /Orange Fixed Plus/ 3G+/EvDO ->CDMA
Orange/Internet everywhere ->GSM
ADSL/Orange Nyumbani/Livebox/Dialup/Jambo/9555 ->Fixed Line

For your case,having used your phone on Safcom network,it is definately a GSM handset. I guess you want to use the Orange service (as per my classification above).

You need to activate data bundles for use. Sadly,this info is not with the poor guys at CusCare. Before I delve into other possible restrictions try the following:

1. Access the data menu #123#,click on call.
2. Listen for & choose the appropriate sub-menu ( Not sure if it's 4 )
3. Choose the bundle to purchase.

You should be access the internet after this. Let's know the results.


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