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GenghisCapitalLtd
#21 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:42:49 PM

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cnn wrote:
GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Cant wait for member. I have a feeling they'l hit 4b PBT for Q1

It was close 3.7B. the thing about this counter is Interest and Non-interest income is 10.6B in the first quarter. The aggregate of those two was 31.7B in FY2011. Chances r, going with current trends and an expectation of improved biz environment, Member can cross the 40Bn mark at FY2012 for income. Astounding!!

KCB seems to have matched member on the income side.

Need to have a look at ROAR's figures man!!
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#22 Posted : Friday, April 27, 2012 12:53:38 PM
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selah wrote:
HFCK & NIC results show banks are really struggling.for instance NIC has borrowed about 2B this quarter alone this was obviousy to shoreup its liquidity..HFCK needs cash if its liquidity ratio is anything to go by.Loans are not growing and provision for bad loans is increasing....This Yr is going to be tough for Banks.


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mwekez@ji
#23 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 10:46:32 AM
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selah wrote:
HFCK & NIC results show banks are really struggling.for instance NIC has borrowed about 2B this quarter alone this was obviousy to shoreup its liquidity..HFCK needs cash if its liquidity ratio is anything to go by.Loans are not growing and provision for bad loans is increasing....This Yr is going to be tough for Banks.


On liquidity and loan growth, that’s the mission CBK/MPC was aiming at with the tight monetary policy. So mission achieved. Bad loans are the collateral damage and they seem to be well managed … MPC is meeting on Thursday so we’ll get a better picture on the way forward for banking industry
mwekez@ji
#24 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 10:59:13 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
selah wrote:
HFCK & NIC results show banks are really struggling.for instance NIC has borrowed about 2B this quarter alone this was obviousy to shoreup its liquidity..HFCK needs cash if its liquidity ratio is anything to go by.Loans are not growing and provision for bad loans is increasing....This Yr is going to be tough for Banks.


On liquidity and loan growth, that’s the mission CBK/MPC was aiming at with the tight monetary policy. So mission achieved. Bad loans are the collateral damage and they seem to be well managed … MPC is meeting on Thursday so we’ll get a better picture on the way forward for banking industry


... and april inflation data is coming in today. Another factor to watch closely
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#25 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 4:22:28 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
selah wrote:
HFCK & NIC results show banks are really struggling.for instance NIC has borrowed about 2B this quarter alone this was obviousy to shoreup its liquidity..HFCK needs cash if its liquidity ratio is anything to go by.Loans are not growing and provision for bad loans is increasing....This Yr is going to be tough for Banks.


On liquidity and loan growth, that’s the mission CBK/MPC was aiming at with the tight monetary policy. So mission achieved. Bad loans are the collateral damage and they seem to be well managed … MPC is meeting on Thursday so we’ll get a better picture on the way forward for banking industry


... and april inflation data is coming in today. Another factor to watch closely

Inflation down to 13%...http://af.reuters.com/article/kenyaNews/idAFN6E8EF00S20120430
mwekez@ji
#26 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 4:25:12 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
selah wrote:
HFCK & NIC results show banks are really struggling.for instance NIC has borrowed about 2B this quarter alone this was obviousy to shoreup its liquidity..HFCK needs cash if its liquidity ratio is anything to go by.Loans are not growing and provision for bad loans is increasing....This Yr is going to be tough for Banks.


On liquidity and loan growth, that’s the mission CBK/MPC was aiming at with the tight monetary policy. So mission achieved. Bad loans are the collateral damage and they seem to be well managed … MPC is meeting on Thursday so we’ll get a better picture on the way forward for banking industry


... and april inflation data is coming in today. Another factor to watch closely


@Selah, where did you read that provision for bad loans is increasing. The financial statements are showing the exact opposite
mwekez@ji
#27 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 4:57:13 PM
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Thats a HUGE drop from 15.61 in March 2012

http://www.knbs.or.ke/cpi/cpi042012.pdf

Food & Non-Alcoholic Beverages inflation (at 16.27%) is the biggest headache and its been felt squarely in Restaurant & Hotels inflation (at 17.79%). Rain is falling so things can only get better.

... now lets see what action CBK will take at the Thursdays MPC
kyt
#28 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 8:30:15 PM
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how is inflation down to 13% yet the prices of basic commodities is going up!!
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#29 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 8:31:42 PM
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i think even coffee is up!!
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guru267
#30 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 8:45:37 PM
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kyt wrote:
how is inflation down to 13% yet the prices of basic commodities is going up!!


@kyt What prices went up during Apri??
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kyt
#31 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 10:53:57 PM
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guru, maize flour moved from 96 to 120, coffee was up from 330 to 345, milk was also up!! hey even oil moved up, guru jamani si hata fuel was broadcasted.
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#32 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 10:59:45 PM
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kyt wrote:
guru, maize flour moved from 96 to 120, coffee was up from 330 to 345, milk was also up!! hey even oil moved up, guru jamani si hata fuel was broadcasted.


Most of the price rises are less than 13%.. The official numbers are just a weighted average
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Scar
#33 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:17:59 AM
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lets wait and see
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mwekez@ji
#34 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:44:51 AM
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guru267 wrote:
kyt wrote:
how is inflation down to 13% yet the prices of basic commodities is going up!!


@kyt What prices went up during Apri??


Kyt has a point. The YoY inflation continued to decrease due to the base effect in the inflation computation.

The average price of the basket of goods used in calculating inflation increased by 0.92% (month on month – from 132.51 in March 2012 to 133.74 in April 2012) and increased by 13.06% (year on year – from 118.29 in April 2011 to 133.74 in April 2012).

It’s worth noting that the prices of goods have been increasing since time immemorial (check Consumer Price Index). In the fiscal year ending in June 2012, the aim is to have 9% inflation. The Long term target is to have 5% inflation. A low and steady inflation is good for a developing country like Kenya, so embrace higher prices if increase is low and steady.

@guru, c/p

http://www.knbs.or.ke/cpi/cpi042012.pdf


Food and Non Alcoholic drinks’ index rose by 1.21 per cent between March 2012 and April 2012. The increase was mainly due to rises in prices of some food products such as milk, potatoes, maize flour and onions in April compared to March 2012. The price of a half litre packet of milk for instance, continued to increase from an average of KSh 38 in March to KSh 40 in April 2012. However, over the same period there were significant falls in the prices of tomatoes, sugar, cooking fat, bananas and spinach among other food items.

Housing, Water, Electricity, Gas and Other fuels’ index went up by 0.89 per cent between March and April 2012. Whereas the prices of electricity and kerosene went up by 1.5 and 2.7 per cent respectively, cooking gas prices on average declined by 2.0 per cent. The average cost of consuming 50 units of electricity increased from KSh 667 in March 2012 to KSh 677 in April 2012.

The Transport index rose by 1.67 per cent between March 2012 and April 2012 due to higher costs of diesel, petrol and bus/matatu fares.
GenghisCapitalLtd
#35 Posted : Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:49:04 AM

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mwekez@ji excellent analysis and great points raised regarding the inflation figures. Expectation of the food index is expected with the rains thus the problem is the non-food, non-fuel portion of the index with MPC setting their target at 9%. This will be the factor that informs the MPC decision kesho.

Any NIC shareholders out there please update us on the decisions made at the AGM kindly tweet @genghiscapital. They will definitely approve the rights issue no doubt, that's my take on it.
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selah
#36 Posted : Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:08:20 AM
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@mwekezaji HFCK which rescheduled most of its loans (that is according to the MD)has its bad loans on check but when you look at Equity which had reduced its non performing loans in Dec in Q1 it has started rising and the exposure is still there where they might be forced to write off some of those loans.NIC non performing loans have increased from 2.3B in 2011 to 2.8B in 2012 while the provision has risen from 8M to 66M.



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