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josiah33
#1 Posted : Saturday, April 28, 2012 3:49:58 PM
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Where exactly is this development going to be?
essyk
#2 Posted : Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:10:38 PM
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http://www.skyscrapercit...howthread.php?t=1506897

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josiah33
#3 Posted : Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:36:30 PM
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mauryc
#4 Posted : Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:47:18 PM
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why is it priced at 5.25m? Is it because of the location?
josiah33
#5 Posted : Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:25:10 AM
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mauryc wrote:

why is it priced at 5.25m? Is it because of the location?

Is the 5.25M alot of money or a little money?
digitek1
#6 Posted : Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:10:36 AM
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sucasa micasa. gotta luv these names. is it the same ruai smile
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mauryc
#7 Posted : Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:07:34 PM
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josiah33 wrote:
mauryc wrote:

why is it priced at 5.25m? Is it because of the location?

Is the 5.25M alot of money or a little money?


Little money; esp if you compare with other developments eg greenspan and the like
madhaquer
#8 Posted : Sunday, April 29, 2012 9:45:25 PM
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I feel 5.25m for a 2br and 1/12th of an acre is Expensive.

Some questions we must ask:
What are the rates for 1/4 in Ruai ?
How much would it cost to build a similar perhaps slightly bigger house ?

What we must acknowledge:
Kenyans love the phrase 'gated community'. To some of us this means security and predictability. And that sells
Sakangu
#9 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 10:04:01 AM
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To me this sounds like the project is at Kamulu i.e. if its after brokeshine school. However this is good initiative for the area, the area hold huge chunks of un-developed land (quite affordable), I see future developments headed this way.
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#10 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 10:26:02 AM
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madhaquer wrote:
I feel 5.25m for a 2br and 1/12th of an acre is Expensive.

Some questions we must ask:
What are the rates for 1/4 in Ruai ?
How much would it cost to build a similar perhaps slightly bigger house ?

What we must acknowledge:
Kenyans love the phrase 'gated community'. To some of us this means security and predictability. And that sells


@madhaquer...very true..gated community concept sells..i have never actually been able to understand what drives this.

I did a housing estate in Syokimau last year [As a Developer] and sold it for 5m.

When new inquiries came, i asked them to buy neighbouring 1/8th land then i design[same design, same location] and manage their construction projects, resulting in a kes 1m savings for them.

To my surprise, none opted for this solution-they would rather i buy the land myself, develop the houses and sell to them and make the 1m profit by myself.

In me acting as architect/project manager, i will get profits in term of consultancy fee-less money but with less huddles e.g cost of buying land, borrowing e.t.c.

In me acting as a developer, i will get more money but more huddles e.g cost of buying land, advertising, borrowing e.t.c

I guess Kenyans are more than willing to pay dearly for security and predictability..
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jamplu
#11 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 11:10:48 AM
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a4architect.com wrote:
madhaquer wrote:
I feel 5.25m for a 2br and 1/12th of an acre is Expensive.

Some questions we must ask:
What are the rates for 1/4 in Ruai ?
How much would it cost to build a similar perhaps slightly bigger house ?

What we must acknowledge:
Kenyans love the phrase 'gated community'. To some of us this means security and predictability. And that sells


@madhaquer...very true..gated community concept sells..i have never actually been able to understand what drives this.

I did a housing estate in Syokimau last year [As a Developer] and sold it for 5m.

When new inquiries came, i asked them to buy neighbouring 1/8th land then i design[same design, same location] and manage their construction projects, resulting in a kes 1m savings for them.

To my surprise, none opted for this solution-they would rather i buy the land myself, develop the houses and sell to them and make the 1m profit by myself.

In me acting as architect/project manager, i will get profits in term of consultancy fee-less money but with less huddles e.g cost of buying land, borrowing e.t.c.

In me acting as a developer, i will get more money but more huddles e.g cost of buying land, advertising, borrowing e.t.c

I guess Kenyans are more than willing to pay dearly for security and predictability..


@a4architect.com i think the majority of kenyans are either just lazy or want the easy way out they would rather loose the 1M than go through the challenges of
overseeing their own construction.
a4architect.com
#12 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 11:21:00 AM
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@jamplu..
this has made architects to slowly turn into the not so exciting field of construction as developers..led by Arch. Muraya of Suraya, Arch. Mwaura of Mwafa Court..e.t.c

Development has more profit but less job satisfaction to the architect.

I also engage in design and housing development but design is more exciting/challenging.
Development engagement is mostly due to responding to Kenyans' demand for 'gated communities'.
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shygal
#13 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 5:13:48 PM
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digitek1 wrote:

sucasa micasa. gotta luv these names. is it the same ruai smile

My guess is that it's somewhere past joska(though there is a part of joska the other side of kangundo road that ndonyo sabuk instead of mavoko). So if the development is on the same side of the road as the joska that's in mavoko it's got to be past that place since we are talking ndonyo sabuk here. The title of the land is indicative-ndonyo sabuk/komarock block xxxx.
shygal
#14 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 5:19:59 PM
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Sakangu wrote:

To me this sounds like the project is at Kamulu i.e. if its after brokeshine school. However this is good initiative for the area, the area hold huge chunks of un-developed land (quite affordable), I see future developments headed this way.

I live in ruai and past Ruai we have kamulu and just past brookshine in kamulu we have joska and past there is kantafu/komarock and so on. But the developers, land sellers call kamulu ruai and joska is kamulu and kantafu is joska to them. So you can see how all these places becomes Ruai.
Goliath
#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:28:38 PM
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@A4Architect, do you have an email adress where one can consult you 'in camera', kuuliza maswali za layman et al.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:11:59 AM
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@Goliatrh..
info@a4architect.com.
Feel free to uliza the maswali hapa hapa tu so that others can also gain from the answers..
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scout_boy
#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:35:41 AM
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Casa mia is slightly past Joska(Machakos County) to the right.
Goliath
#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:24:06 AM
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@A4Arch i want to make enquiries on a mradi am planning, most stuff about building is discussed here anyway, i just want to try actualize my thoughts/plans. asante sana.
Kaka M
#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:44:50 AM
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Title: Sub-lease 99 years from 2012

What will be some of the implications of the property being Lease hold?

Would an owner use it the property as collateral for a loan? What other effects would the lease hold have?
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:43:14 PM
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Lease hold title can be used to borrow form a bank.
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